4WD: Advantages/disadvantages

[briancd]

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[Doc_Bob]

Like has been said, it does indeed depend on your needs and that may well be determined on where you live.

That says it all.
Bob

 

[briancd]

I think the debate has already been settled but I figured I'd weigh in with my 2c as a little tractor owner. I don't have 40 or 20 or 2 years experience with tractors but what the h**l. Multiple opinions are where its at. I bought a NH tc26da in may 06 and I have 100 hours on it. Yes, listen to me because I speak from an unbiased position. We've used the tractor to regrade 300m of gravel drive with 7 loads of 5/8 gravel with fines, build gardens from about 6 loads of topsoil, and created 200m on new gravel laneways. PS m=39inches or 1.+ yards for you metrically challenged. Anyway, the only time I've used 2wd is driving up anmd down my lane with nothing in the FEL. In 2wd I lose traction trying to scoop a load of gravel, or going down a hill, or navigating rocky terrain. I feel really unsafe when doing "heavy" (I know it's all relative) work in 2wd. I don't know the price difference for "real" tractors but for my baby tractor 4wd is the ONLY way to go. And by the way, even in 2wd my 800# BH or my 500# boxblade Plus my filled rear wheels don't help like 4wd does. Or should I say, "front wheel assist". Just scale up my comments by 2x or 3x and you've got your "real tractor" answer.

 

[john_bud]

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I really like what John Bud said earlier about giving the FIL something to gripe about to make him feel good. Really good advice, John is a pretty savvy dude.

Gawwsh, you're mak'n me blush...


I actually learned that tid-bit when giving presentations to directors and VP's. They usually didn't undertand the technobabble, were made uncomfortable because they should have being technical in their backgrounds and would just try and kill me to make themselves feel better. Finally figured out to put a "dufus" thing in the first couple slides for them to find and correct, then they would sit back and concentrate on the information - having proven their superiority once more.


jb

 

[_RaT_]

Gawwsh, you're mak'n me blush...


I actually learned that tid-bit when giving presentations to directors and VP's. They usually didn't undertand the technobabble, were made uncomfortable because they should have being technical in their backgrounds and would just try and kill me to make themselves feel better. Finally figured out to put a "dufus" thing in the first couple slides for them to find and correct, then they would sit back and concentrate on the information - having proven their superiority once more.


jb

John Bud, I second 3 rivers comments.. that makes 2, a third and your well, not out but you are in...

 

[3RRL]

Gawwsh, you're mak'n me blush...


I actually learned that tid-bit when giving presentations to directors and VP's. They usually didn't undertand the technobabble, were made uncomfortable because they should have being technical in their backgrounds and would just try and kill me to make themselves feel better. Finally figured out to put a "dufus" thing in the first couple slides for them to find and correct, then they would sit back and concentrate on the information - having proven their superiority once more.


jb

Likewise John,
I learned to do that very same thing while presenting a design concept to my customer engineers (plastic injection molds). I would always draw an obvious mistake like an ejector pin going right through a water line and usually on page 2. This would hit them in the face and give them a chance to "correct" my design. They would then leave alone the main concept of what I was trying to accomplish. I used to teach that technique to all my designers and it worked every time.
Nevertheless, in reading your posts, I think you are still a pretty savvy guy, and your sarcasm is second to none too.

 

[john_bud]

and your sarcasm is second to none too.

Whoops! Have to back that down to a more manageable level.

jb

 

[Richard]

I was moving buckest full of rotten horse manure. The stuff was heavy and very slippery. I guess I had 800# of manure in the bucket.

Wow, them is some prolific horses!!

 

[JimParker]

..."You really need to hit a set of blades like these '57 Hogans....there's nothing better."

Well, I stiffed it again and I said to him, "Yeah, they're nice, but I bet those guys at the 1957 Indy 500 thought they had the fastest race car ever too"...

The funny thing is that those golf pros in '57 were scoring about the same as today's pros... (I know, courses have changed, and so have teaching methods, training methods, etc.)

I'm just saying that you have to be very selective how you use that argument... Lots of "old school stuff" beats the heck out of today's "upgrades"...

 

[3RRL]

I'm just saying that you have to be very selective how you use that argument... Lots of "old school stuff" beats the heck out of today's "upgrades"...

Big Jim,
I certainly agree with you there.
It was an example of how to make some people see, that in some cases, modern equipment/ideas, are sometimes useful and should be considered, (at least to make a comparison) rather than just overlooking them. Know what I mean?
BTW, LOL ... I have been playing blades (old school) same set for the last 15 years. hahaha
Rob-