4x4 Kubota front axle/hub design - poor?

   / 4x4 Kubota front axle/hub design - poor? #11  
Incidentally, my local Kubota dealer charges $500-$600 to change those seals. Per side.

JayC

Wow, I just ordered the seals and one "O" ring for one front side of my B21. The total was $57.37 and included $9.87 shipping. I haven't done this before so I showed the parts schematic to a mechanic friend who didn't think it should take more than a couple of hours or be that difficult. You guys that have done this, am I missing something here. I can't believe it would be $500-600 at the dealer.

MarkV
 
   / 4x4 Kubota front axle/hub design - poor? #12  
Do all 4x4 tractors have this problem, or just Kubota?

JayC[/QUOTE]


My Massey is leaking again, both sides, they were replace by the dealer[under warr] i will try to change them myself this time.
My Massey has just over 800hrs.

Shane
 
   / 4x4 Kubota front axle/hub design - poor? #15  
Hi guys I'm new here. I have a 2000 model year with the same problem. It has just under a 1000 hours. The previous owner said it begins leaking from time to time. He said he replaced the seal once and then learned all he had to do was take it out and clean it and it would stop. Well the right side is leaking pretty bad. The previous owner said you can elevate that tire (block) and run the oil to the other side as a temporary fix, but I want to take it apart and have a look at the seal. Can anyone explain what is involved in taking it apart to get at the seal?
Thanks,
Mitch
 
   / 4x4 Kubota front axle/hub design - poor?
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#16  
I haven't done it myself yet, but - there is a plug that you have to pop out on the bottom of the hub, then the assembly is held together by a few big snap-rings. Download a parts manual - the exploded diagram will show you what it inside the hub/bezel. If you are going to take it apart, I'd suggest going ahead and changing the leaky seals - why not? The seals are about $50 each for my tractor. While apart, check the bearings carefully - a loose bearing sometimes causes that seal to fail, evidently. Apparently, the key to the job is a 'good' pair of snap-ring pliers, but I haven't been able to find out exactly what size or style is needed.

Dirt catches on the top of the hub and grinds into the seal - crappy design if you ask me. Sometimes, a particle of dirt will lodge under the seal lip causing a leak, but washing the area will blow the particle out and will stop the leak. My tractor has had leaky bezel seals since I got it 5 years ago, but I was always able to wash the area and slow the leaking to a manageable level - only lost about 1/2 gallon in 4 years. The starboard side seal is dry as a bone now, but toward the end of summer, the port side starting leaking like a sieve. My front axle was almost a gallon low when I filled up with the heavy stuff last month.

I put 85W140 gear oil (its like honey) into my front axle to slow it down until I get a chance to tear it apart. I don't think it made a whole lot of difference compared to the 80W90 I had in there previously, unfortunately - which makes sense since it's 80W vs 85W, although it sure looked thicker and barely flowed. I'll probably wait until spring to change the seal - it's already too danged cold to do that kind of job unless it is an emergency. My tractor seems to be leaking about 10-12oz. per month now - I'm catching it in a cup to keep an eye on it (tempted to dump it right back in too...). If it stays leaking at this rate, I'll probably only have to add oil once during the winter.

JayC
 
   / 4x4 Kubota front axle/hub design - poor?
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#17  
I just found this - might be some help:

JayC
 

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   / 4x4 Kubota front axle/hub design - poor? #18  
Thanks for the info Jay.
Mitch
 
   / 4x4 Kubota front axle/hub design - poor? #19  
Search around there are other threads in here, I followed one to change all the bearings and seals on one side of mine.
 
   / 4x4 Kubota front axle/hub design - poor? #20  
I haven't noticed, since i just bought it, But can you access this seal with a round bottle brush to help keep mud off the seals, while washing? My Axle says L2250 on it. jy.
 

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