5 extra hp

[fried1765]

But isn't Messick's a dealer?

Parts are available from Messick's, Amazon, E-Bay, NAPA and a host of other parts suppliers.
They all sell the parts, but they are not all SERVICING dealers!
Messick's just happens to be a preferred parts house for me.
I would never go to Messick's (450 miles away) to use their dealer maintenance shop services.

 

[K5lwq]

Parts are available from Messick's, Amazon, E-Bay, NAPA and a host of other parts suppliers.
They all sell the parts, but they are not all SERVICING dealers!
Messick's just happens to be a preferred parts house for me.
I would never go to Messick's (450 miles away) to use their dealer maintenance shop services.

I hear ya. Just couldn't resist. I want to support my local dealer as much as possible just because I like them and want them to be successful. I still do most of my own service but in the event my health keeps me from it in the future, I hope my dealer is still in business.

 

[Kioti Dave]

I'm looking at the NX 4510 and the NX5010. Main uses will be loader, boxblade, and backhoe work. My property is hilly with 90 percent woods. The only time that I would use the PTO would be for tilling and occasional mowing at my brothers property.
I'm just debating if 5hp is worth the extra money.

Hi, have an NX4510. 275 hours and pretty happy. When I bought it, they had a NX5010 on lot for 3k more. The NX I find is geared pretty high. Wish I had got the 5010 now. When box blading up hill, I regularly have to shift into L to avoid bogging down. Having said that, I don't know how much difference the extra 5 hp would be. But for 1.6k, I wouldn't even think about it and get the 5010.

 

[Kioti Dave]

Too many times in the past I have opted for the lower price option only to wish I had spent the money 'up front'. Hind sight is always 20/20.

 

[bubba43]

I found a leftover 2017 Nx5010 an hour from my house. I'm going to go and check it out this weekend. There's 5 dealers within an hour of my house.

 

[K5lwq]

I found a leftover 2017 Nx5010 an hour from my house. I'm going to go and check it out this weekend. There's 5 dealers within an hour of my house.

That's great! Hope it works out!

 

[wiskioti]

I have the NX4510 in HST with R4 tires. I love the tractor, but knowing what I know now, I would go with the 5010. Here's why: With R4 tires, you are 72" wide, which means you will want to run 6' implements. So, 6' tillers and 6' brush mowers. The 4510 HST has about 35HP at the PTO, which is the minimum recommended HP for many 6' implements. The 5010 has 39HP at the PTO. Due to this, I do notice that when the brush mowing and tilling get heavier, the tractor will bog a little. At the end of the day, I've just learned to slow down a little, but having to do it over, I would have bumped up to the 5010. I've also noticed that in high gear when running roads, I also experience bogging. All said and done, I think the 5010 would do everything a little better. Hope this helps.

 

[Threepoint]

I found a leftover 2017 Nx5010 an hour from my house. I'm going to go and check it out this weekend. There's 5 dealers within an hour of my house.

Interesting. I'm curious about it's history, as I'm sure you are. "Leftover" to me would seem to be a new tractor that's been in the dealer's inventory. But that would mean it's been on the lot for at least two years, which seems odd to me. Perhaps a low-hour tractor that was taken back on a trade up?

 

[MinnesotaEric]

I'm looking at the NX 4510 and the NX5010. Main uses will be loader, boxblade, and backhoe work. My property is hilly with 90 percent woods. The only time that I would use the PTO would be for tilling and occasional mowing at my brothers property.
I'm just debating if 5hp is worth the extra money.

How hilly? Track loader hilly? The only thing I can do on a hill with my Kioti HST 6010 is going up and down with the grades. You sure a tractor is your best and first choice.

That extra power goes to the wheels, but when I'm working on a hill, I'm in my lowest gear anyway.

 

[bubba43]

Interesting. I'm curious about it's history, as I'm sure you are. "Leftover" to me would seem to be a new tractor that's been in the dealer's inventory. But that would mean it's been on the lot for at least two years, which seems odd to me. Perhaps a low-hour tractor that was taken back on a trade up?

Dealer says its new leftover stock. It ended up being a gear drive and they wanted almost as much as a new NX5010HST. I passed.

 

[bubba43]

How hilly? Track loader hilly? The only thing I can do on a hill with my Kioti HST 6010 is going up and down with the grades. You sure a tractor is your best and first choice.

That extra power goes to the wheels, but when I'm working on a hill, I'm in my lowest gear anyway.

Its not that bad. But, there is some spots that I will not even try and go up on my 4 wheeler. I run my CK30 up and down them now. Its just a little slow going.

 

[JimR]

Dealer...Dealer...Dealer......it is said throughout TBN
I have bought many cars in my lifetime. I can recall only one time needing the dealer...Peugeot diesel (POS)
I have three tractors all bought used.
None has ever been to a dealer.
Any necessary parts come by UPS from Messick's...450 miles away.
I have an equipment trailer, and can take any tractor with issues, to any shop I might want. Most everyone with a tractor SHOULD have a trailer.
A dealer to me, is as worthless as **** on a boar pig!

For those with a Tier IV tractor though,it might be best if the dealer is your next door neighbor.

You are spot on about the Tier IV crap. I've had my share with it and it has cost me over $1500.00 out of pocket for warranty work that Kioti refuses to pay for.

 

[NC419N]

Hill痴 and Hydro痴 are not a good mix if you are dead set on Hydro my suggestion is get all the Horsepower you can cause your going to need it

 

[bubba43]

I'm going with hydrastatic so that my boy can operate it safely and I do alot of grapple work. I do agree with getting all the hp that I can. That HST really robs the hp.

 

[finn1]

I dont believe that formula works for diesel, only gas. Diesels are low RPM high torque engines.

Of course it works for Diesels! The formula is a basic engineering definition of horsepower, applicable to any power source.

Even a water wheel.

 

[bubba43]

After negotiations with my dealer, the NX4510 ended up being over $2200 cheaper than the 5010. I have one on order and should have it in 2 weeks. I priced a Kioti box blade while I was there, man they are expensive.

 

[K5lwq]

After negotiations with my dealer, the NX4510 ended up being over $2200 cheaper than the 5010. I have one on order and should have it in 2 weeks. I priced a Kioti box blade while I was there, man they are expensive.

Congratulations! Post pictures when you get it home!

You probably can find a good deal on a used box blade. I have had good luck going used on most implements.

 

[JimR]

After negotiations with my dealer, the NX4510 ended up being over $2200 cheaper than the 5010. I have one on order and should have it in 2 weeks. I priced a Kioti box blade while I was there, man they are expensive.

Good deal, hope you like it.

 

[Threepoint]

After negotiations with my dealer, the NX4510 ended up being over $2200 cheaper than the 5010. I have one on order and should have it in 2 weeks. I priced a Kioti box blade while I was there, man they are expensive.

Congratulations on the new tractor!

Don't you already have a box blade for your CK?

I think the Kioti-branded box blade you looked at for your new NX may be a re-branded Woods BSM84 BB, with Kioti paint. I say that just based on pics that another TBN member posted a few weeks ago of his new Kioti blade. If so, the Woods BSM84 is a very nice match for the NX4510 at 750 lbs, especially for the hilly conditions you describe. I've had one in steady use for nearly six years on my NX4510HST cab and would not want it any bigger or heavier. For a price reference, I paid about $1,300 in early 2014. I see them listed new online for about $1,400 now, so if that's what your Kioti dealer is quoting, that's actually not bad. Very rugged construction.

 

[bubba43]

I do have the box blade from my old tractor but it is only 5 foot and I now need a 6 footer. Threepoint, that's exactly what the dealer wanted for a six footer. $1400.