5000W Generator Recommendations

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If money were no object, I would get a Honda/Honda. As cost is a consideration- A Honda is like $2200. then again all kinds of junk for 500 bucks. HomeDepot carries a Generac for like 700+. Says it has a "generac" motor-translation-Chinese motor.

I have 5000w Honda (EGR 5000) that I bought 13 yrs ago for around $1300, great stand by unit. This is for one of my kids but I don't want to see him with a piece of junk because if he is on the road and they loose power the daughter in law will be calling me!

At the very least would want a Honda motor.

Appreciate any opinions/experiences.
 
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Buy yourself your "dream" generator for YOU, then give your kids your old Honda...

SR
 
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Sawyer Rob has the right idea. I would look for a Honda engine coupled to a generator with copper windings. As you noted, good ones are expensive.
 
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the real question is how many hours is it expected to run, why buy the best if it sees 30 hours in 5 years? i have a predator and it does the job, and as expected since i bought it power outages have all but stopped.

i have several honda motor's i actually find them harder to start over the Chinese/BS motors I have
 
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the real question is how many hours is it expected to run, why buy the best if it sees 30 hours in 5 years? i have a predator and it does the job, and as expected since i bought it power outages have all but stopped.

i have several honda motor's i actually find them harder to start over the Chinese/BS motors I have

This. I would love to have a nice whole house auto start etc....but in 5 years at this house we have run the generator twice for power outages. At the old house about the same kind of use. So why spend the money right now? I did get electric start just because Mrs. The Man wold have trouble pull starting a 6500 watt generator. We went that large because when the power is out we do want our creature comforts not just the basics.

As I get older I will consider the $$ for the whole house unit.

Champion makes good units for a fair cost. They have a dual fuel in the 5000 watt range.
 
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People spend all manner of money on stuff they rarely use. Often even making payments! Much of it becoming worth less every day. Why such a hard stance on generators, which can put a real smile on your face when you need a good one?
 
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Go for copper windings. You didn't say if you wanted an inverter model or not, nor what voltage you wanted. I would keep in mind that the inverter models while quite and more fuel efficient have more to go wrong, and less of a chance that they will be repairable in the moment.

Is it mission critical? Does your son/daughter in law have issues that absolutely require it to work? If so, buy a Honda, a bigger Generac, or a Northern Tool. If not, and they don't plan on using it frequently, and their neighbors will tolerate the noise, buy a cheap one, or two, but I wouldn't cheap out to the point of aluminum wiring. Is there a local service center for a brand that you like?

Unless they can keep gasoline fresh, someone is going to need to think about getting sealed cans of fuel for it, or at least consider getting a propane unit.

I have three;
  • One Onan 5kw (5000+ hours). Routine maintenance only. 120V only. Happiest when it has 2.5-5kw of load. That makes it a bit of diva, but it always starts and runs, and then leans into the load when it gets dumped on.
  • One ancient Coleman 4kw gasoline generator that came with house and looks to be fifty years old. No idea on the hours. Replaced the fuel hose, and the spark plug short to stop it. The crankcase vent mists a little oil, so you don't want it some place that you care about when you are running it. I think that these sell for more now than they did when they were new. (120/240)
  • One no-name china diesel 6.5kw. (33hrs) (120/240) Threw a push rod once, (probably my bad for not adjusting the valves at ten hours), had the float of the fuel gauge leak, needed a new fuel solenoid (the old one weeped fuel) and vibrated a few screws loose from the Yanmar clone engine early in its life. I bought this for not much from someone who was moving and no longer needed it, with 8 hours on hour meter. I have now gone over it enough times that I think that I understand it and have it in trustworthy shape, but whether it will be a 5000 hour generator is in the castings, and I have no idea. I will never put that many hours on it.

They all produce relatively clean 60Hz power. (120V +/-) The 6.5kw diesel handles the furnace and booster pump, coming on, with the fridge and freezer running. I prefer the diesel because it is easier for me to keep the fuel around, but YMMV. Has it let me down? Yes, but only once was it not repairable (I didn't have a spare push rod).

My observation is that people tend to buy generators, leave them in the back of the garage, and then pull them out for emergencies and expect them to run flat out for a couple of days. That is asking a lot. Regular use and maintenance goes a long way toward making a generator reliable in my opinion.

Just my $0.02 YMMV, of course. For the record, all of these will become standby standby generators next winter, when we install Tesla Powerwall batteries which charge from the solar on the roof.

All the best,

Peter
 
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I have the durostar 10k i got off amazon for $900. Biggest plus over a 5k is electric start and 220v, could not find a 5k that had both those features. I shopped for one for my father recently, he wanted generac, but the prices were high and all but the biggest didn't have 220v and electric start. He's older and didn't want to mess with pull start, and he wanted to run his well pump which is 220v.
 
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It's my understanding that Generac makes their own purpose built engines in Wisconsin for the home and commercial standby units. Not sure about the portables.

I'm looking at whole house now for what I might not be able to do in a few years. I can mess around with cords and fueling a portable now, but how much longer will I be able to?

That said, I'm a bit irritated at them for missing two shipping dates now for the transfer switch.
 
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You don’t say if you need 120v or 240v for a well pump.

I have a 3250 Generac that I ran for 4 solid days after a storm 7 years ago and have run it a handful of times since. I change the fuel every year (run the previous fuel through the atvs or riding mower) and it has been flawless.

At my cabin I have a Westinghouse 7k. Other than going too long between oil changes and pissing off the low oil shutdown, it has also been reliable.

Unless you plan to run it every day for work, and as long as you either drain all the fuel or regularly refresh it and maintain the oil, and run it a couple times a year as a test, pretty much all of them will work.

If I only needed 120v I would probably go with an inverter or pair of them linked. But I need 240v so I’m pretty much stuck with copper windings. I would buy either of mine again. I bought my generac locally at a fleet farm the morning between storms and the Westinghouse from Costco online and was delivered to my curb.

Anyone have the fuel injected Generac? I’d love a report if it keeps to 3600 rpm better regardless of load. Mine tend to vary by enough that I my fridge gets mad and shuts down after a half a day.
 
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I used a 50a breaker and an interlock kit. much easier and cheaper.
 
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It's my understanding that Generac makes their own purpose built engines in Wisconsin for the home and commercial standby units. Not sure about the portables.

I'm looking at whole house now for what I might not be able to do in a few years. I can mess around with cords and fueling a portable now, but how much longer will I be able to?

That said, I'm a bit irritated at them for missing two shipping dates now for the transfer switch.

Sorry to hear that they have missed some shipping dates. Perhaps they are having trouble with lower Uncton? (Just kidding) With Covid and all, they are buried under orders, so things are slipping. Someone posted on another thread that they had a backlog of 80,000 odd generators in July.

All the best,

Peter
 
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Generac isnt only backlogged on generators, there backlogged on parts. I ordered some voltage regulators and battery chargers from then 3 weeks Ago, snd still have not shipped. Its getting old.
 
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If you have a UPS for your computer system, I'd be less worried about having the highest spec power, though I rarely read where this is an issue any more with
modern regulation. Real problem is overpowering the unit where sine waves start getting chopped off, not good for what is being powered.
I have had two whole house Generacs and they were flawless. I now rent and am waiting on a 10kw dual fuel Honeywell. This will be my third Honeywell, have no idea who makes
their Chonda engines but they have been very reliable and well made. If you can get a Generac with a US made motor, I'd put that right up with Honda for most applications.
Having a rpm drop down under light load is a very nice feature to have, saves fuel and wear and tear.

Pretty unanimous opinions here that if you can power with propane, you will have a lot less problems down the road.
If you power with only gasoline, absolutely only use ethanol free fuel if you can get it.
 
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Again, the major issue with LP is availability. If roads are closed due to storm damage, trucks can't deliver. Even smaller Whole house standby units require at least 100 lb bottles which most people don't have on hand or the ability to transport to filling stations. For the 13Kw+ units many of us would consider, you'd need a 500 gallon tank.
 
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Again, the major issue with LP is availability. If roads are closed due to storm damage, trucks can't deliver. Even smaller Whole house standby units require at least 100 lb bottles which most people don't have on hand or the ability to transport to filling stations. For the 13Kw+ units many of us would consider, you'd need a 500 gallon tank.

Agreed, but depends upon size of gen. My 9500W/8500W on propane will run off a 20# tank for 7 hours. Factory advertising show unit hooked up accordingly.
My intentions are to have twin 30# tanks hooked together, with E0 gasoline as backup. 30# tanks heaviest I can pick up with bad back...
Sure was spoiled by 1000 gallon propane tank on my farm.
 

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