5065e starting procedures- trans in Park?

[CobyRupert]

My starter on 5075E went at 150 hours, but still would start on 2nd or 3rd try, and sometimes on the first try (so yes, intermittent). At first I wondered if it was a park switch, (cause after a little giggle, moving it from neutral, it would start on 2nd try) but manual is incorrect, it can start in neutral. The solenoid terminal on the starter is behind plastic, but w/ 2 people I could stand next to it and hear it click (but not start)when my helper turned the key, so I knew the voltage was getting to it.

 

[Notforhire]

My 5055E will start in neut or park, but not in gear. Clutch in or out has no effect.

 

[theSeb]

The user manual is absolutely correct. The tractor will not start in gear. It must be in neutral. The manual also states that you should clutch in. This makes no difference, but I still start with the clutch in anyway. If you really managed to start her with the tractor in gear, then there is something wrong.

 

[Rmd8136]

Well, after driving 5065e this week, all occurrences of not starting were "in gear with clutch in". Apparently the manual saying "must be in Park" is to emphasize safety. Like you guys have said, it will start in neutral or Park but not in gear. The clutch has no effect. When removing/re-installing my bucket from 553, I have started tractor standing on ground (not in seat) so I can operate loader and walk to front of tractor. I keep it in Park then. I hope that is not a bad habit. It is probably best to be in seat whenever you turn key. I imagine for Auger or Chipper operations there are many times you need tractor running but need to be out of seat. I am new to tractors so I appreciate any good safety advice.

 

[JD5210]

On my 5210 the tractor needs to be in NEUTRAL during the step that the loader comes off the tractor, because the loader pushes the tractor away. Looking at the manual for your loader (URL to manual included) after step 12 it says: Place transmission in NEUTRAL, to allow tractor movement


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[Notforhire]

I have started tractor standing on ground (not in seat) so I can operate loader and walk to front of tractor. I keep it in Park then. I hope that is not a bad habit. It is probably best to be in seat whenever you turn key.

I hope that is not a bad habit.

It is! I do the same thing, :ashamed:but it's really not a good idea. IF the tractor was in gear and not in neutral or park, and IF the neutral safety switch failed, the tractor would start in gear and run you (or me) over as we stand in front of the right rear wheel and start the engine.
Before safety switches, people got run over a lot.
Frankly I think the PARK gear is the greatest thing since sliced bread! Before I had a park gear, rather than setting the brakes when shutting down the tractor, I would leave it in gear. (So it wouldn't roll away) This would solve the problem of forgetting that I locked the brakes and driving away with them on. Unfortunately if the tractor was started from the ground in gear (my old Farmalls could do that) the chance of getting run over was good. Yes, park gear is a great safety improvement!:thumbsup:

 

[Rmd8136]

So forgive my ignorance but since there is a Park gear, there is no need to lock the brakes. And in fact, you can't lock the brakes, correct? I know you can lock the rear wheel brakes together with the rotating flat bar.

 

[Notforhire]

So forgive my ignorance but since there is a Park gear, there is no need to lock the brakes. And in fact, you can't lock the brakes, correct? I know you can lock the rear wheel brakes together with the rotating flat bar.

Correct. By having the park gear, JD was able to eliminate the brake lock, as it is no longer necessary. IMHO this makes the tractor safer, for the reasons given in my previous post.

 

[Gator6x4]

I think you are making a problem. The tractors starts as described in the owners manual and you are asking if this is correct?

 

[Rmd8136]

Gator6x4: the tractor will start as described in manual ( in Park) but will also start in neutral. The manual is intending to convey the safest way to start the tractor. I noticed that it also starts in neutral, even though the manual says it has to be in Park. The dealer and several other owners, and myself, observe our tractors start in neutral as well as Park. There is a problem with the manual. It is inaccurate since it says if the gear selector is not in Park, it won't start. I understand why JD would want to write the manual that way as it probably results in less accidents . I was wondering if my start circuitry was faulty since it starts in neutral. I now believe it is fine.