Buying Advice 50HP Kubota - high hours/rough shape - what痴 a fair price?

   / 50HP Kubota - high hours/rough shape - what痴 a fair price? #11  
My 2 cents:

You hire a tractor mechanic (Kubota if nearby) pay his labor fees (probably 2hrs)and have him check it out 4 U.
That will be your best investment B4 investing.

He will be impartial as well as being knowledgeable.
OK, you could spend $150. or so for a qualified opinion but in the long run you won't regret it.

Hey, could be a real good buy providing nothing major is pending.
Paint, grease and a few hoses is not all that costly. OK, maybe all hoses , LOL, one after the other due to age (but that is a simple DIY).
 
   / 50HP Kubota - high hours/rough shape - what痴 a fair price? #12  
My 2 cents:

You hire a tractor mechanic (Kubota if nearby) pay his labor fees (probably 2hrs)and have him check it out 4 U.
That will be your best investment B4 investing.

He will be impartial as well as being knowledgeable.
OK, you could spend $150. or so for a qualified opinion but in the long run you won't regret it.

Hey, could be a real good buy providing nothing major is pending.
Paint, grease and a few hoses is not all that costly. OK, maybe all hoses , LOL, one after the other due to age (but that is a simple DIY).

^^^^^YUP !!!
 
   / 50HP Kubota - high hours/rough shape - what痴 a fair price? #13  
What model Kubota????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Rough looking with a loader and 5500 hours?
Engine needs rebuild, transmission may need rebuild (?) needs new tires (?) hyd. hoses (?) hyd. cylinders rebuild (?), battery (?) water pump (?) radiator (?) engine hoses (?) Injectors (?) injector pump (?) seat (?) etc.,etc.
Your "suitable running machine for 15K" will eventually cost you 23K +, and ......
You will then have a 35+ year old faded/rusty Kubota, with a possible re-sale value of 12K.
Engine - ?7500
Tires - what size? - say $3K
Hoses and cylinders? If you can't do it yourself another $3K
etc. etc. etc.
Unless you own a machine shop and enjoy restoring old iron walk away.

I just saw a primo B21 going for $16.5K

kubb21.jpg

And a ?bargain basket case for $800
kub-basketcase.jpg
 
   / 50HP Kubota - high hours/rough shape - what痴 a fair price? #14  
pass on this one, & be patient, lots available out there in these difficult financial times
you can do better
 
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   / 50HP Kubota - high hours/rough shape - what痴 a fair price? #15  
If you can’t do the work yourself, run away.

Labor rates here are in the $100-125/hr range.

New tractors with multi year warranties are the best option if you can’t do your own maintenance, including engine rebuilds.
 
   / 50HP Kubota - high hours/rough shape - what痴 a fair price? #16  
I wouldn't pay that much to take a chance like that. It's not a great deal. If you end up dumping a bunch of money in it you will be in it more than a nice one.
 
   / 50HP Kubota - high hours/rough shape - what痴 a fair price? #17  
To my thinking: how much do you need such a machine? If you only need it say 400 hours a year or 10 weeks full time that would be 4000 hours in 10 years or the total hours will be short of 10,000. If you don't have to do all that work and repairs to it you could well end up with only a $1,000 a year in it. Would think if taken care of you could expect it to last about 10,000 hours.
 
   / 50HP Kubota - high hours/rough shape - what痴 a fair price? #18  
A friend just bought an older high hour full size backhoe for $12K. It is 2wd, with good engine and the manual transmission. It needed attention everywhere and tires + a battery & lights just to get it home. Steering was an adventure and the brakes didn't work. But it basically ran and everything worked after a fashion even if everything needed work. Over the last few years he has worked with it maybe twice as much as much as he has worked on it. Everything important is finally done and now is in better shape now than when he got it. My guess is that he has put another ten grand into it. But he is a master mechanic and enjoys that sort of thing.
Now he has a machine he feels comfortable keeping as his "forever tractor", and he did it with money he could afford.

Looking back on his project, I think this worked out for him because it had a good engine, transmission, and decent hydraulics. He and I could run it enough to tell that none of that stuff was broken, although every single control, switch, and lever needed a rebuild. And even more important, all the parts are available everywhere for that old JD backhoe.

So I guess I am saying that I agree with what you want to do and I've both seen it done and done it myself. Your price seems ballpark OK. You aren't alone; lots of guys have done the same thing. Fixing up something old used to be a common way to get started in life. If you do that with a tractor, and then a car and finally a house, you end up way ahead. So the idea is good, but the critical thing is... is this the right tractor to start with? I'm assuming you are after a keeper....

Sometimes making up some rules help me make a decision. It might help you. I'd suggest that if the motor bottom end is strong & no leaks.... and the probablility is high that it just needs injectors and maybe a valve job I'd say it is a "yes" for that, but only if the transmission and rear end are good too.
You've got enough downsides especially with rusty rims and bum tires that you have got to also have some upside. With the one my buddy bought, once he got it home he was able to do a month's worth of small projects with it even though it needed just about everything. In my buddy's case,

So if that motor seems sound, you are looking at injector rebuilds and a head job that will run you in the neighborhood of $1500 instead of $7500. Now all of a sudden the project makes sense. I expect you are the type of mechanic who will rebuild your own starter, alternator, clean the radiator up, and replace steering spindle bushings or hydraulic seals at home on your shop work bench - or at least one who doesn't mind learning how. This kind of project takes that. In the end, enjoying the work makes all the difference in the project.
rScotty
 
   / 50HP Kubota - high hours/rough shape - what痴 a fair price?
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#19  
Model is L3750

As mentioned - ASK is 7500, possible room to haggle (I doubt much...but never know).

My rebuild is again worst case...it痴 very possible I could run this a decade with no new issues developing.

As to the 努ay too much...buy a clean unit for 12-15k crowd - kindly direct me to those units. As I said - I sold the MF with 3800 hours and no backhoe for around 11,500...it was marginally nicer.

A new unit with emissions similar size is going to be what - mid 40s? Used - I壇 expect a clean unit with a couple of thousand on the clock to come in high teens. No guarantees that a 斗ow hour unit doesn稚 quit the next day either. Hours are in indication of PROBABILITIES not POSSIBILITY of failure.

I of course don稚 NEED the unit...but bigger would be nice...and if I can resell later for any profit...all the better.

It痴 a nice sized machine, capable of doing a decent amount of work - while not costing more than a years wages. Always buyers for stuff like that in any market. I am not 兎litist when it comes to tools - right price, anything that runs has a use and market.
 
   / 50HP Kubota - high hours/rough shape - what痴 a fair price? #20  
Would think if taken care of you could expect it to last about 10,000 hours.
Without major problems?? You can expect it, but you won't get it!!

I'd be willing to bet, you will have a lot of money into it by the time you get to 10k hours!

SR
 

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