Snow 59 blower

[skid-kid]

Well I know there has been a lot of snowblower talk going on with winter fast approaching. I bought a 59 for my 3320 about two weeks ago from a dealer about two and a half hours from me. He said it was a 08 that was removed from a 3320 that the owner just had to have his loader on so he brought it back, didn't even wear the paint out of the shute. He assured me everything was there to mount and operate it on my 3320. When I picked it up I knew the front hitch was not the correct one that I have seen for a 3x20 and again he assured me it was. I looked this hitch up on JD parts and the only model I could find it under was the 4000 series. The water was starting to boil. However when I went out to see if it would work out it did, no modifications. I did have to remove the brush guard for clearance to lift. I also had to remove the lift arms for my 72D MMM. It was fairly simple and I can switch back and forth from blower to loader. It doesn't take any longer to hook up than anything else on this tractor. I will have to remove that hitch to go back to the MMM in the spring but all the more wrenching it took to do the swap was easily worth it. I attached a few pics so you can see it, they were from my phone so I hope you can see them. Like I said the only place I could find the hitch that came with it was for the 4000 series. Maybe it was for the 3X20 also I don't know but it worked. The driveshafts came with it also. I just thought this might be some good information for 3x20 owners to know if you come across a used one with a different hitch. I know someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Rob-D]

Well I know there has been a lot of snowblower talk going on with winter fast approaching. I bought a 59 for my 3320 about two weeks ago from a dealer about two and a half hours from me. He said it was a 08 that was removed from a 3320 that the owner just had to have his loader on so he brought it back, didn't even wear the paint out of the shute. He assured me everything was there to mount and operate it on my 3320. When I picked it up I knew the front hitch was not the correct one that I have seen for a 3x20 and again he assured me it was. I looked this hitch up on JD parts and the only model I could find it under was the 4000 series. The water was starting to boil. However when I went out to see if it would work out it did, no modifications. I did have to remove the brush guard for clearance to lift. I also had to remove the lift arms for my 72D MMM. It was fairly simple and I can switch back and forth from blower to loader. It doesn't take any longer to hook up than anything else on this tractor. I will have to remove that hitch to go back to the MMM in the spring but all the more wrenching it took to do the swap was easily worth it. I attached a few pics so you can see it, they were from my phone so I hope you can see them. Like I said the only place I could find the hitch that came with it was for the 4000 series. Maybe it was for the 3X20 also I don't know but it worked. The driveshafts came with it also. I just thought this might be some good information for 3x20 owners to know if you come across a used one with a different hitch. I know someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

Hi,
What I think you have is the old attach system before the present front 'A' frame 3PH. It will work fine and if the price was right you did OK. The new system with the 'A'frame runs about $5600.00 (figure about 5k out the door).

Is your impeller plastic? I just got the 59 inch blower and mine is steel but I did hear talk that at one time they were plastic.

Rob

 

[skid-kid]

I didn't know when they switched to the front three point. In a couple days searching the three point system was all I could find for the 3x20. But I have only owned a compact since this April. It does fit fine and lifts plenty high enough and it was only three bolts per side to install and when I remove it there is nothing left like the 3 point set up. It was all supposed to be off of an 08.

My impeller is metal. I did ask him about that and he said the plastic ones were on the 47" blower. He said he has one himself and it has been fine.

I can't wait to see this thing in action. I have been doing it with the GT275 and single stage blower for years.

 

[kennyd]

Is your impeller plastic? I just got the 59 inch blower and mine is steel but I did hear talk that at one time they were plastic.

Rob

I think the plastic impeller was on the new larger (54") units for the 2x20's, not the 59" for the 3x20's.

EDIT:
Here are some threads on it:

First impression of new 54" blower? - TractorByNet.com

Finally bought...


54" snowblower observation? - TractorByNet.com

 

[Rob-D]

I think the plastic impeller was on the new larger (54") units for the 2x20's, not the 59" for the 3x20's.

EDIT:
Here are some threads on it:

First impression of new 54" blower? - TractorByNet.com

Finally bought...


54" snowblower observation? - TractorByNet.com

OK, thanks Kenny, I knew there was something about the front blowers and plastic impellers but couldn't remember where I read it.

Rob

 

[Wayne_H]

Something looks wrong on it, better sell it to me cheap to put on my 4400!

Wayne

 

[DrainPondDesign]

Hi Skid-Kid,

I think Rob D is right in that your mount looks like the one previous to the current 3pt A-frame mount that we have.

One difference I see is that the A-frame mount keeps the blower level like a 3pt when raised. We have been advised by the JD tech not to remove our brushguard as it limits the maximum driveshaft angle when fully raised.

The only failure we have had is a worn chute rotator cable which can be fabricated by any tractor supply.

The auger worm gear is bronze, check gear box oil levels and do not use stronger than the recommended grade 5 shear bolts.

The surrounding hills are white this morning, time to get the loader off and blower mounted.

 

[Rob-D]

Hi Skid-Kid,

I think Rob D is right in that your mount looks like the one previous to the current 3pt A-frame mount that we have.

One difference I see is that the A-frame mount keeps the blower level like a 3pt when raised. We have been advised by the JD tech not to remove our brushguard as it limits the maximum driveshaft angle when fully raised.

The only failure we have had is a worn chute rotator cable which can be fabricated by any tractor supply.

The auger worm gear is bronze, check gear box oil levels and do not use stronger than the recommended grade 5 shear bolts.

The surrounding hills are white this morning, time to get the loader off and blower mounted.

Hi,
We've had cable failures too. There's a trick, what usually happens is they corrode so we grease the heck out of them which seems to help a little, especially with all the salt that gets put on the roads here that we pick up when we clean snow at our driveway outlet.

Rob

 

[defed]

i am looking at a 59" blower that came off of a 3000. i have a 4300. so i sort of have the same question as skid-kid....are the mounts the same? he said it fits 3120, 3320, 3520 and 3720.

here is a picture of the pieces.

 

[Rob-D]

i am looking at a 59" blower that came off of a 3000. i have a 4300. so i sort of have the same question as skid-kid....are the mounts the same? he said it fits 3120, 3320, 3520 and 3720.

here is a picture of the pieces.

Defed,
It's hard to tell from that photo. What you should do is go to Deere's site and check out the mounting system and parts for the blower on your tractor.(you can check JD parts or possibly do a "build your own" and check to see if the parts for both are the same) Most likely the width of the two tractors is not the same. The picture you're showing looks like there are 'A' frame parts in it and that's the newer mounting system but I don't see all the parts there.

Rob

 

[defed]

for some reason, i couldn't find the mounting parts on JD, but when i went to the dealer to ask, he got it right up, and now i can find it myself...either typed something wrong the time i tried or something wasn't working at that time.

i just saw something stating this about the blowers:

this WILL NOT fit with 900 series/1400 series John Deere front mount mowers...different PTO set up/direction/ and mounting.

It WILL FIT John Deere models42/43/4400- 42/43/4410 series, 31/33/35/3720 series compact utility tractors along with model 790.

i think that the one shown w/ that description is the old style. so the next question is this...is the new style just an upgrade to the old style, or does the new style only fit a select few models? in other words, will any tractor that can accept the old style also accept the new style?

i'm thinking that if skid-kid has the old style mount that would fit my 4300 (i can't tell from his pics) and it fits his 3320, then the reverse should be true....the new style for the 3320 would also fit the 4300. too bad they can't just make everything the same!

 

[skid-kid]

defed,

If what you have doesn't work on the 4300 and what I have will maybe we could work something out. When I looked in JD parts they do not show the hitch I have for the 3320 just the 4000 series. Some say that I may have an older hitch for the 3320 but if it is an older hitch they don't show it at all on the parts diagrams just the front three point set up. And the only front three point setup for the 4300 that I found in the JD parts was listed as European. Maybe I am missing something but that is what I found.

 

[defed]

i thought about offering a swap w/ you if it wouldn't work on my 4300. but then again, like you said, what you have may fit your 3320 and still not fit the 4300. like you, i can't find alot of GOOD pics of the different mounts. i do only see the 3 pt setup listed on JD for the 3x20's.

from what i can tell, the one for the 4300 is similar to the quick attach system on alot of garden tractors. just a couple of latches that hang down from the frame to lock onto the blower frame.

i haven't bought the blower yet, as i don't want to spend a couple thousand and have to make/buy alot of stuff to attach it.

i see you are in western PA, i am near buffalo, NY. maybe not too far from each other.

 

[defed]

after some more searching, i have found similar statements to the one that i previously posted about what models it will fit, but these other ones are more like....it will fit 3x20 and 4x00 tractors, WITH the correct attaching hardware. then they state that the mount they have with the blower will ONLY fit 3x20.

guess i can't justify spending $2k+ and then having to modify all sorts of stuff to make it work...unless i knew that what skid kid had was what i needed and we traded. my problem will be solved for me when it gets sold before i make a decision! :laughing:

 

[Rob-D]

Try this guys. I think this is the old system.

(The last illustration on the right is the NEW system)
Rob

 

[Rob-D]

Here's one more for the 42/43/4400.

 

[skid-kid]

Rob-D

The pic on the left and the center pic is exactly what I have. Even the hanger(15) in the middle diagram stands out. Where did you find diagrams of the old system. I would like to find manuals for it but everything I found had the new three point system for the 3x20 series.

 

[Rob-D]

Rob-D

The pic on the left and the center pic is exactly what I have. Even the hanger(15) in the middle diagram stands out. Where did you find diagrams of the old system. I would like to find manuals for it but everything I found had the new three point system for the 3x20 series.

This is JD parts, you may need to sign in. Here's the link. If you follow the tree you can see there are two blowers listed.Let me know if you have trouble getting to it.
Rob

http://jdpc.deere.com/jdpc/servlet/com.deere.u90490.partscatalog.view.servlets.HomePageServlet

 

[skid-kid]

When I go to JD parts that center picture you posted of the hitch is listed as FRONT HITCH KIT (4210/4310/4410)傳R>FRONT HITCH KIT (210/4310/4410) (CONTINUED). If you move your cursor over the pic you posted it is mp26601____un23nov01.gif. If you put your cursor over the pic on JD parts for the FRONT HITCH KIT (4210/4310/4410)傳R>FRONT HITCH KIT (210/4310/4410) (CONTINUED) it is the same as the one you posted. The only one I saw for the 3x20 series was the three point. I have worked on aircraft for twenty one years and I know how parts diagrams and the books they are in (mostly digital now) can sometimes show different parts for the same job. I just have not been able to find that specific hitch with 3x20 any where on JD parts just for the 4210/4310/4410. It may just be the same and compatible with the 3x20. It works and I didn't have to modify anything. I was just trying to verify that it does fit both tractors so other owners would know if they came acrossed a used one for sale that came off of a 4x10.

 

[Rob-D]

When I go to JD parts that center picture you posted of the hitch is listed as FRONT HITCH KIT (4210/4310/4410)傳R>FRONT HITCH KIT (210/4310/4410) (CONTINUED). If you move your cursor over the pic you posted it is mp26601____un23nov01.gif. If you put your cursor over the pic on JD parts for the FRONT HITCH KIT (4210/4310/4410)傳R>FRONT HITCH KIT (210/4310/4410) (CONTINUED) it is the same as the one you posted. The only one I saw for the 3x20 series was the three point. I have worked on aircraft for twenty one years and I know how parts diagrams and the books they are in (mostly digital now) can sometimes show different parts for the same job. I just have not been able to find that specific hitch with 3x20 any where on JD parts just for the 4210/4310/4410. It may just be the same and compatible with the 3x20. It works and I didn't have to modify anything. I was just trying to verify that it does fit both tractors so other owners would know if they came acrossed a used one for sale that came off of a 4x10.

Yes, it came from the 3x20 diagrams that's whyI figured it would work with both machines.