60 inch material bucket for 1430

menchhofer · Jan 30, 2016

So I called Tazewell the other day to order a new light material bucket which I plan on using on different machine. Wanted to purchase it without the quick attach plate.
I was informed we could not buy the bucket without the QT plate welded on.. Now I realize PT is an independent company it seems unreal they will not sell the bucket without it. Also, I had thought the newer plates were bolted on instead of welded.

MossRoad · Jan 30, 2016

Interesting. Maybe the plate is part of production? I don't know. :confused3:

jfischer · Jan 30, 2016

If you look on the part of their page that says "Attachments for other machinery" That is where you will find what they sell that does not have a QA plate on them, and they don't list any buckets, just Blades and other things.

menchhofer · Jan 30, 2016

So I guess I will just need to grind off the plate.

jfischer · Jan 30, 2016

I think you might have to do that. Most everything I saw was welded to the QA plates when I was down there. You can't find any other companies that will sell you a bucket at a cheap price. I have a buddy that buys QA plates for his skid steer loaders and they are a lot cheaper then PT wants for the same thing for their machines, and there is a lot more work in the cuts and bends, and looks like others attachments might be also.

menchhofer said:
So I guess I will just need to grind off the plate.

Marks481 · Jan 30, 2016

jfischer said:
If you look on the part of their page that says "Attachments for other machinery"... they don't list any buckets...

Very surprising that they don't have buckets on that list. Seems like that would sell more than other attachments.

woodlandfarms · Feb 1, 2016

A couple of us ordered buckets from another company (Lackender Fabrication). Price was less, quality was a bit up and they would do whatever was asked. No reason to use PT's Light Materials bucket. Truth is the only implement I currently own out of my 12 implements is the mower deck. Might pick up one more from them, another mower, but you never know.

menchhofer · Feb 1, 2016

woodlandfarms said:
A couple of us ordered buckets from another company (Lackender Fabrication). Price was less, quality was a bit up and they would do whatever was asked. No reason to use PT's Light Materials bucket. Truth is the only implement I currently own out of my 12 implements is the mower deck. Might pick up one more from them, another mower, but you never know.

PT quoted me a price of 680.00 for 60 inch light material bucket. Something like 330.00 for shipping. This Lackender is interesting and may contact them to get pricing..thanks

SpringHollow · Feb 1, 2016

I have definitely been pleased with everything I have bought from Lackender and the prices were very reasonable. He even made attachment plates. I found him to be a very nice guy to deal with as well. I have a swinging mini hoe, pallet forks, large bucket, and 3 pt hitch adapter made by him.

Ken

ernemats · Feb 1, 2016

Several years ago I bought a new 60 inch bucket from a local New Holland dealer for $250. It had been sitting in their lot for several years and they wanted to move it. I put a pt quick attach bracket on it and it works for me. Check your local dealers you might find a bucket you could modify

woodlandfarms · Feb 2, 2016

If it was me, I would follow Enemats process. Shipping is great seperator when it comes to PT. and a bucket is just a bucket. Even better would be finding a good used one that is not too big for the 1430.

Ken has been a bad (expensive) person in my life, encouraging me to follow with him on purchases from Lackendar and elsewhere. We both got basically the same stuff from Lackendar. I would like a trencher, but am looking to find a used hydraulic one in my hood. It is easier for me as the 1850 puts out a lot of hydraulic GPM that is more equal to a skid steer. Also, for whatever reason I have issues with my backhoe. I tend to break the rollover bar, probably operator error but it sucks having to constantly fix this part of the PT.

Two final notes. If you decide to buy a local bucket, just make sure you mount the PT Bracket correctly. Thankfully Ken made his purchase first, and there was an angle of the dangle issue that we had not thought through. Ken had to grind off his connectors and re-weld but we caught mine in time before they shipped. If you decide to get a third party bucket, ken and I can explain further.

Second is that I have begun to make my own brackets. Turned out to be pretty inexpensive to just make them myself.

SpringHollow · Feb 4, 2016

Carl, you have the wrong perspective on things. I make life easier for you - think how much less you have to worry about how to spend your money or what to put in all of that empty space!

I would love to be able to increase the range of motion on the bucket. Either I can carry a sloppy load well or I can dump well but not both.

Do you cut your own plate steel for the plates?

Ken

ponytug · Feb 4, 2016

Perhaps I am not understanding the issue, but couldn't you replace the dump cylinder with a longer one, or alter the linkage arm?

I don't quite understand the logic of the dump/lift cylinders on my 1445. The bucket tilts backward the higher it is lifted. I would have thought that maintaining the angle would have been a feature. On mine, I am weight limited for sloppy loads, so I never really worried about how far up it could be tilted, since the floor of the bucket is vertical when I dump things.

Sign me confused,

All the best,

Peter

SpringHollow said:
Carl, you have the wrong perspective on things. I make life easier for you - think how much less you have to worry about how to spend your money or what to put in all of that empty space!

I would love to be able to increase the range of motion on the bucket. Either I can carry a sloppy load well or I can dump well but not both.

Do you cut your own plate steel for the plates?

Ken

SpringHollow · Feb 4, 2016

Hi Peter,

The issue is how far the attachment plate can be tilted until it hits something - not looking at it right now so I can not be more specific. But I had come to the conclusion that I would have to redesign their FEL plate if I wanted a greater range. Changing the length of the top link helps one and hurts the other. I will have to look and see if changing the length of the cylinder would solve the problem but I think you end up with the same issues. A longer cylinder means you can not retract as far. Definitely worth looking at though. A cylinder is not that expensive.

Ken

woodlandfarms · Feb 4, 2016

Just as an FYI on this, I have broke too many top links in my days (seems the backhoe eats them for lunch). To this end I moved over to using an adjustable toplink. I can in fact set the machine up for a sloppy or tight bucket if I choose to do so. I find 2 things, though, is that the top link tends to vibrate loose (expand) so I start tight and end up sloppy. The other part is that using a standard toplink they don't hold up as well (the middle tube tends to bend) if you hit it just right with the backhoe.

On the 1850 it is a big bummer you got 65 horse and 1200lbs of lift force. I guet why but it is a bummer.

woodlandfarms · Feb 4, 2016

Ken, at the very least I sit more level without all that cash in my back pocket.

MossRoad · Feb 4, 2016

I think several years back JJ posted a link to an adjustable top link that wasn't screw-type (which can come loose), but holes and pins. Looked interesting. You could also put in a hydraulic cylinder instead of the top link and hook it to a solenoid valve and adjust on the fly.

woodlandfarms · Feb 4, 2016

I would "brown out" my tractor if I hooked up all the little hydraulic add ons i would like. Lets see... seperate circuit for the quick attach, rear 3 point hydraulic lift, tilt mechanism, better seat control, OHHH a lift for the engine compartment.

SpringHollow · Feb 7, 2016

woodlandfarms said:
Just as an FYI on this, I have broke too many top links in my days (seems the backhoe eats them for lunch). To this end I moved over to using an adjustable toplink. I can in fact set the machine up for a sloppy or tight bucket if I choose to do so. I find 2 things, though, is that the top link tends to vibrate loose (expand) so I start tight and end up sloppy. The other part is that using a standard toplink they don't hold up as well (the middle tube tends to bend) if you hit it just right with the backhoe.

On the 1850 it is a big bummer you got 65 horse and 1200lbs of lift force. I guet why but it is a bummer.

I made a solid rectangular bar with holes every so often to vary the length. Initially, I used a piece of unistrut that I had laying around when my adjustable top link snapped in 2. Surprisingly, the unistrut lasted for about a year.

Ken