6010 rod with inverter welders (i.e. Hobart Stickmate 210i)?

[Sid Post]

I see a lot of mixed comments on 6010 electrodes with DC Inverter welders. I don't understand why I would want to use 6010 over say 6011 and why it seems to be such a controversial topic. Is the Hobart Stickmate 210i compatible with 6010? Why would I want to use it over 6011?

TIA,
Sid

 

[aczlan]

As I understand it, 6000 series rods work better with a higher open circuit voltage, the Everlast inverter stick welder that I have has a button to push when running 6010 that I believe raises the open-circuit voltage.

Aaron Z

 

[WranglerX]

Might find correct answer here.....

https://www.esabna.com/shared/docum.../gen-26883h_filler_metal_databook_us_2016.pdf

Dale

 

[BufordBoone]

When I bought my Lincoln 210MP, I was told it wouldn't run 6010. The guy teaching me to weld and a few others didn't know that. They gave me a couple of electrodes and said "Try it". I did, it was horrible. Tough to keep lit. Poor weld.

It runs 6011 just fine.

For what I need to do, I don't know of any advantage that 6010 would have over 6011. Therefore, I consider it a "non issue".

 

[stevewarner1957]

The MP210 is a great machine but 6010 is a no go. I prefer 6010 to 6011 but I have other welders that run it fine. I have run 6011 and it’s fine on the 210.

 

[Gary Fowler]

E 6010 is a DC rod only ran in the DCEP position. The only reason a machine wouldn't run them is because it is not DC or the polarity is wrong when you tried.
The E6011 can run AC or DC electrode positive (ACEP/DCEP).

 

[BufordBoone]

E 6010 is a DC rod only ran in the DCEP position. The only reason a machine wouldn't run them is because it is not DC or the polarity is wrong when you tried.
The E6011 can run AC or DC electrode positive (ACEP/DCEP).

Actually the MP210 can run electrode Positive or electrode negative. However, it won't run 6010 well. I think it even says that in the manual.

 

[rankrank1]

I see a lot of mixed comments on 6010 electrodes with DC Inverter welders. I don't understand why I would want to use 6010 over say 6011 and why it seems to be such a controversial topic. Is the Hobart Stickmate 210i compatible with 6010? Why would I want to use it over 6011?

TIA,
Sid

I have no idea if the Hobart Stickmate 210i will run 6010 or not. Many of the cheaper inverters will not run 6010 very well but do run 6011 just fine.

If you are not doing code work then you are perfectly fine to use 6011 for your work as you see fit. I use 6011 as I can easily find and buy it anywhere in small 5 to 10 lb quantities. 6010 is not near as easy for me to get and if I do then I have to buy a gigantic 50 lb quantity to get it. Many weld properties of 6011 are actually superior to 6010 (example 6011 is slightly more ductile).

If you plan to do code level job work or plan to practice for stick welding jobs that involve code work then I would want a machine that will run 6010 and 7018 well as those will be the 2 most common rods for code type stick jobs. If neither of these are in your future then I would not pay a premium price for this ability for backyard work.

 

[Gary Fowler]

My inverter machine runs 6010 but it is a little different than my Miller transformer. The transformer is much smoother with the 6010 than the inverter. Also per the digital readout on the inverter, it takes way less amps. I usually run my Miller on 110-125 on the dial (no idea what the real amps are) which is comparable to all the industrial machine I am familiar with, but the inverter is super hot at 100, it actually burns well at 85 amps.

 

[yomax4]

Cellulose coated Rods ie: 6010 and 6011 respond the best over 60 OCV. (Open Circuit Volts.) 80 OCV is getting there. 6010 will run on lower OCV but it loses it's " Whip" capability and needs to run on a shorter arc to stay lit. I have equipment to easily run Cellulose electrodes but I avoid them like I avoid Gassless wire. Not that any of it is bad, I just have no need for what they do. If you wonder if your machine will run 6010 just look at your OCV on your spec sheet. Often you can get it lit and weld with it but you won't be able to run it like it wants to be ran. I know all about 6010 and pipe root but have no need or desire to weld pipe root. I'd go with Tig instead.