$7.00 gallon diesel??

[_RaT_]

Thanks Carl, your always right on with the facts. I appreciate that.

 

[jimg]

Im w/ you...Id like to see biodiesel go mainstream.

 

[Sully2]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I think you're referring to "shale oil"-yeah, there's so much of it.

Drastic times call for drastic measures. We oughta start thinking about more nuke power plants, too.

I really would like to see a new energy policy for this country and a concerted effort to refine biodiesel to the point that it will reduce a significant amount of foreign oil dependence. )</font>

Naw..this was plain old "coal".
I agree on the nuke electrical plants...if we can just keep the KOOKS from climbing the fences and messing with the control rooms!!

 

[Builder]

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Naw..this was plain old "coal".
I agree on the nuke electrical plants...if we can just keep the KOOKS from climbing the fences and messing with the control rooms!! )</font>

OK, I was thinkin you were talking about the shale oil featured in the 60 minutes segment about a month ago on all the shale oil we have out in the Montana strip mines.

 

[RFB]

"coal oil" was used interchangeably as kerosene, and was ubiquitous in the old days. It was produced by heating coal in a retort. At a certain price point, other methods for synthesis become feasible.

If we pursued a nuclear electricity production program with the same vigor as we did the race-to-the-moon, we could mitigate much of the oil issue. If a national goal of 20 new nuke gen plants in every State was concluded in a 10 year period, all of the petro freed from use would then be available.

As an aside, coal burning electrical power plants put thousands of times more radioactive debris directly into the air than is produced by nuke plants.

Unfortunately, we will not do the above, because American society is too lazy to require this from their elected representatives.

 

[Builder]

That's right. It's our energy policy that is killing us more than any shortages of fuel, either real or percieved.

 

[5030]

RFB:

Or our elected "career" politicians, even though they make big promises to get elected, do what they want and not in the best interests of the people in general. Case-in-point.....George Bush /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[Sully2]

Hmmmm..!! I see the last 3 posters think as I do along these lines.... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[LBrown59]

<font color="blue"> A good example of taxes here in Michigan is the solid fuel tax that was added this year on processed wood pellets for pellet stoves. 6% of the cost of a bag of pellet fuel was added to the final cost as a "solid fuel tax".
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<font color="green"> It's a good why to discourage alternate fuel sources and to keep the oil companies in business.
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[Bates]

I'm afraid we've been spoiled in the U.S. for too long.

It's a fact that inflation doubles the cost of goods and services about every 10 years. Using this accepted guideline, a 40-something cent gallon of gas from the 1960's should cost around $6 per gallon now 40 years later.

1965- .40 cents.?
1975- .80 cents.?
1985- $1.60?
1995- $3.20?
2005- $6.40?

Compared to peoples wages, fuel is actually CHEAPER now than it was in the 1960's.

We are an utterly wasteful society. $6 a gallon fuel would teach us to conserve and use natural resources more carefully as well as develop less harmful alternatives.