7 tooth spring ripper-cultivator-chisel

[paulsharvey]

Anyone able to ID this. It looks like a cross between a very light chisel plow and a heavier cultivator, or maybe a "pasture rejuvenator".

I'm guessing around 300 lbs; just over 7 foot wide; 7 dual spring loaded teeth.

Feels like old school Massey or Ford-Dearborn; but not tag, no sticker, no serials, or ID, and either might have been red, or red iron oxide primer, or maybe just rusty metal; no clearly definable paint left.

Paid $100 for it. We'll, paid $140 for it and a 4 ft bushhog, that is probably just a waste... Bushhog is a New Holland

 

[paulsharvey]

Bush hog pictures too

 

[paulsharvey]

Kinda looks like a Dearborn 13-1, without the depth control disc in the center front?

 

[paulsharvey]

I'm kinda leaning towards it looks a lot like a MF 38, or the EA from this video.

Regardless of the exact model, I'll tell you, when all 7 shanks are down, 12" or so, it's more than my CK2610 wants. It does do a good job working roots/wood trash upto the surface to pile and burn.

 

[jeff9366]

The All Purpose Plow may be a Leinbach.

This guess based on shovels mounted on the tines.

 

[workinonit]

Light weight chisel plow. Tons of them around here. I have one sitting in my implement lineup that hasn't been used in years. I have a big 9 point chisel that I use. It will go at least twice as deep as that one. Mine is a Massey.

 

[paulsharvey]

So, I don't know that I will ever find out what the original brand name was; but it looks like Lienbach made the EA model; which appears identical to the Bushhog branded one; and I have found a parts diagram for the Bushhog model. I'll have to check sprung diameter, and wrap count, but I think I have a good starting place

 

[paulsharvey]

It looks like it matches the Bushog APP85-7.

 

[jyoutz]

Anyone able to ID this. It looks like a cross between a very light chisel plow and a heavier cultivator, or maybe a "pasture rejuvenator".

I'm guessing around 300 lbs; just over 7 foot wide; 7 dual spring loaded teeth.

Feels like old school Massey or Ford-Dearborn; but not tag, no sticker, no serials, or ID, and either might have been red, or red iron oxide primer, or maybe just rusty metal; no clearly definable paint left.

Paid $100 for it. We'll, paid $140 for it and a 4 ft bushhog, that is probably just a waste... Bushhog is a New HollandView attachment 1641278View attachment 1641315View attachment 1641536View attachment 1641566

I have a 9 shank model just like that only newer. It is called a Fred Cain all purpose plow. It’s really good for deep ripping.

 

[Complete Turf Care]

Looks like the only thing you can salvage from the brush hog is the 'c-clamp'

 

[paulsharvey]

Looks like the only thing you can salvage from the brush hog is the 'c-clamp'

It turns freely, and it atleast has the gear box, blades, and PTO shaft. I told the guy, it's gonna end up in my "future projectiles pile"; and he basically told me, it was in his never got around to it projects pile. I probably shouldn't have offered the $40 for it, and just offered to load it up... Still, I feel I got the chisel for cheap enough, and wasn't trying to beat him up.

That dang chisel was all me and my son could do to pick up and load, though.

 

[paulsharvey]

It turns freely, and it atleast has the gear box, blades, and PTO shaft. I told the guy, it's gonna end up in my "future projectiles pile"; and he basically told me, it was in his never got around to it projects pile. I probably shouldn't have offered the $40 for it, and just offered to load it up... Still, I feel I got the chisel for cheap enough, and wasn't trying to beat him up.

That dang chisel was all me and my son could do to pick up and load, though.

Future Projects pile; hopefully not future projectiles pile...

 

[jeff9366]

It looks like it matches the Bushog APP85-7.

The Leinbach APP was heavier than the Dirt Dog / Bush Hog / Fred Cain APPs of today.

The Leinbach tines were much beefier and would accept bolt-through shovels, as in your picture. As would the original (Harry) Ferguson APP, which Ferguson called a "Tiller".

The Dirt Dog / Bush Hog / Fred Cain APPs of today have 1/2" width tines, narrower than the Leinbach tines which if I remember correctly were 3/4" width, so they could take a 1/4" or 5/16" nut and bolt. I have never been able to find cultivating shovels compatible with my contemporary Dirt Dog APP, which is identical to the Bush Hog and Fred Cain branded APPs of today.

Dirt Dog - All Purpose Plow / Field Cultivator REVIEW + PICTURES

Dirt Dog All Purpose Plow / Field Cultivator Dirt Dog Model APP 66-5 Total Width 66", Working Width 62", Five Tines, Weight 284 Pounds, Paid $835.00 (2010) Field Cultivator: A Three Point Hitch mounted, secondary tillage implement, used to perform operations such as soil aeration...

www.tractorbynet.com

 

[paulsharvey]

Shanks confirmed to be 0.71" thick.

 

[paulsharvey]

Also, two of the front shanks, the bushing pivot part has broken. It looks like I've tracked down entire assemblies, springs, shank, point, and the weird spring attachment bolt, for $81/each.

Aldo, I've confirmed that 60+ years of rust makes the bolts next to impossible to remove gracefully

 

[sixdogs]

You harrow is an old-timey Dearborn/Pittsburgh or similar maker and there are a lot of old ones around. A lot of newer ones as well as it seems everyone still makes and has made copies. Parts that fit or are close enough are available at most farm retail stores or online.

These are good harrows for lighter duty things like a garden or small space. With wider shovels you could keep weeds down over the summer in ground that was already worked or prep a garden in spring. In hard ground they could be torn up pretty easy with enough HP or just skip over the hard ground with low HP.

I've had a lot of these over the years, often wind up selling and then wish I had it back again. I'd spray yours with a mix of new synthetic oil and diesel fuel to slow down the rust. Then use it, replace what breaks and call it good.

Be careful putting money into it because it will be hard to get it back if sold.