77 yr.old crushed to death !!

   / 77 yr.old crushed to death !! #11  
Go up backwards whenever possible.

The very same thing happened at our fair grounds a few years ago. I believe farming is one of the most dangerous occupations. We are so blessed to have the safety features of modern iron. May God give us the wisdom to use it. Slow and easy my friends, goes far in a day. Lord keep us all safe, and may we prosper as we do unto others...
 
   / 77 yr.old crushed to death !! #12  
Loading tractors and towing from a high hitch position are two things that kill a lot of operators.
 
   / 77 yr.old crushed to death !! #13  
Go up backwards whenever possible.

I agree...Deffinitely back Up the ramp...My brother lost a neighbor years ago...The neighbor had very little time on a tractor and was sadly backing down a curved sloped driveway with his front loaded bucket high in the air...It all happened in front of the neighbors young son............sad.

Don
 
   / 77 yr.old crushed to death !! #14  
Oh! I didn't read the thing about Tom Lucas. I still don't see it in there, call me stubborn. I also think that a little girl would be able to tell medics about what appened, but not about the weight of the tractor, which is very off.
 
   / 77 yr.old crushed to death !! #16  
There seems to be a certain opinion here that his trying to load the tractor by driving (forward) onto the trailer as opposed to backing onto the trailer may have been a primary factor in the tractor rearing backwards.

I am somewhat new to using tractors and wish to make sure that I don't engage in any tractor operations which are dangerous.

1. It wouldn't seem that driving onto a trailer would put the tractor at such an angle that it would tip backwards. I know that when they delivered my tractor they loaded it by driving forward onto the trailer. Most tractors that I have seen on trailers were loaded this way. Am I missing something here? Was there something unusual about his trailer and / or tractor that made driving onto the trailer such a dangerous situation?

2. I have a NH 2420 tractor (spec. sheet here - http://www.newholland.com/FILES/tbl_s25SeriesText/PDFUpload290/1795/Boomer_Ut_specs_062708.pdf). For this tractor what would be a maximum incline that I could engage without putting myself into a dangerous situation?

3. I'm quite certain that I have had my tractor in relatively steep inclined situations such as a.) running my tractor up onto the pile of dirt I was dumping onto with my loader, and b.) climbing the tractor up over a ridge (embankment) to get out of the pit I was digging in. In case 'a' I was probably at about a 25-degree incline (just a guess).

4. How does having ballast (counterweight) on the the rear of the tractor affect the maximum safe incline of a tractor? For instance I can hang a 2200 lb ballast box on my tractor. Would having all this weight in the rear make the tractor more susceptible to rearing backwards (especially going up an incline / embankment)?

5. How does going up ramps onto a trailer differ from going up a steep hill (with or w/out a bushhog)? Here in the Arkansas Ozarks we don't have flat ground but we do have a bunch of steep hills you have to contend with.

6. I have seen tilt meters (such as these listed on TBN, Redirect). What do you think of these?
 
   / 77 yr.old crushed to death !! #17  
Wouldn't loading a tractor on a tilt bed trailer be safer than loading it on a trailer with ramps? ?
You know no ramps to fall off of.
Bump
*5. How does going up ramps onto a trailer differ from going up a steep hill (with or w/out a bushhog)? Here in the Arkansas Ozarks we don't have flat ground but we do have a bunch of steep hills you have to contend with.
5*I can't se how it would differ.
 
   / 77 yr.old crushed to death !!
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#18  
Me personally,, I drive my tractor up onto the trailer forward,, and backup off the trailer. "As seen in my avatar photo" I've never had any indication of a rollover. I could see however,, perhaps an unusually steep trailer/ramp combination, and possibly "dumping'' the clutch, for whatever reason, combined with a revving engine as a easy recipe to a rollover incident !! Just a thought.
 
   / 77 yr.old crushed to death !! #19  
It would seem it had to be a high trailer such as a semi flat bed. Now, saying that I have heard a person or two brag about not using ramps with a trailer and saw this almost happen with a Bobcat and a very low trailer. The bottom rear of the Bobcat hit and prevented the rollover. Operator was in his 70's also. They were on an incline making any angle worse and he just drove up the trailer and let the front wheels jump up onto the trailer. As I said, the bottom of the rear end caught it and he was able to drive it onto the trailer. There was 3 or 4 of us watching just knowing he was going to flip. The ramps, too much trouble to pull them out. The trailer floor was not even a foot above ground level. kt
 
   / 77 yr.old crushed to death !! #20  
I've responded to three:
1: too high a gear, trying to ease it up by slipping clutch, foot slipped. incline + poped clutch turtled it. ROPS saved life. Had to use air bags to free operator

2: Ramp not locked. Wheel spin when front tire hit trailer, caused the ramp to drop flipping tractor on side. Bad outcome.

3: Ramp in wrong place / careless. Ramps locked, but driver backed off side of ramp midway down. Same outcome as #2

Too many people in too much of a hurry.
 

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