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[downslope]

My friend picked up a 4-cyl diesel tractor that reads 901 on the hood. The trans is 4-speed and it's red and gray but looks to have been painted a few times. It has 13.6x28 rear tires and a standard wide front end. The numbers near the battery tray are eroded and may not be able to be read.

A few questions. If it is a 901 series and has a standard wide front end what about it would be different from an 801 series? Should there be something different about how the front axle mounts up to the engine? It doesn't seem to sit any higher than a standard utility. If the numbers by the trans are not readable what could tell us if the tractor was pieced together with salvage parts from 800/801's or even 600/601's?

Also, did Ford discontinue the 5-speed trans option after the Selecto-Speed came out? It seems like I only see the 5-speeds on the older 00 series.

 

[whodat526]

My friend picked up a 4-cyl diesel tractor that reads 901 on the hood. The trans is 4-speed and it's red and gray but looks to have been painted a few times. It has 13.6x28 rear tires and a standard wide front end. The numbers near the battery tray are eroded and may not be able to be read.

A few questions. If it is a 901 series and has a standard wide front end what about it would be different from an 801 series? Should there be something different about how the front axle mounts up to the engine? It doesn't seem to sit any higher than a standard utility. If the numbers by the trans are not readable what could tell us if the tractor was pieced together with salvage parts from 800/801's or even 600/601's?

Also, did Ford discontinue the 5-speed trans option after the Selecto-Speed came out? It seems like I only see the 5-speeds on the older 00 series.

first off if its a 901 the front end will be totaly different than a 801 also the rear end will have bull gears on a 901 and a straight axle on a 801. Also it could be a 801 with 901 side panels

and yes the continued the 5speed when the sos came out but quit them in 1964

 

[Guesseral]

Try this link see if anything looks like what you have. Identifying Old Ford Tractors

 

[Guesseral]

You know that didn't work they don't even show a 901. Sorry.

 

[BungeeII]

901 is much different from an 800/801.

http://image.classictrucks.com/f/10...00_supernationals+ford_901_series_tractor.jpg

 

[strum456]

The 900 series tractors are "row crop" models. If your tractor is a 900 model, it can be easily identified by the rear axle. It will have final drives that drop the wheels down from the rear axle about 6" by using two extra gears. The 800s have a straight axle, and no final drives. 900s could be tricycle type or wide front, but all 900s sit higher and are considered row crop tractors. A rare high crop version of the 900 was also availible and is higher yet.

It is possible that someone mixed up some parts on your tractor, as many of them are interchangable. However, it is more likley that you have a wide wheeled 901. This is a reallly nice looking tractor too!!!

 

[Soundguy]

here's a pic of my 63 4000 which is essentially a updated 941 has the ford wide front end.

last pic shows another of my rowcrops, a 950.. shows you the drop 'bull' axles and the brake hub, while i'm changing a tire.

hope this helps.

ps.. the one you are looking at would be a 941-D-5 if it was a 4spd and wide front from the factory.. post pics if you are unsure.

soundguy

 

[Guesseral]

Wow that is different. I can't remember ever seeing a row crop tractor, but they are different and then they are still the same yea I think I said that right.

 

[Soundguy]

yep.. older ones used a single piece pedistal.. newer oneds use the 2 piece as shown.. all had the drop axles in the rear..

 

[BungeeII]

I probably shouldn't say this, but....

As a HUGE fan of the 801 series tractors, I just can't come to appreciate these 901 series. They're kinda hard to look at.:laughing:

 

[strum456]

I love the 900 and 901s (narrow or wide front). I have a narrow 960. If the opportunity ever presents itself, I will do a wide front 900 some day. Our 960 has been in the family since new (it was my grandfathers). It is definitely my Dad's favorite...what a good tractor! And yes, I have some 800s too.

 

[Guesseral]

I probably shouldn't say this, but....

As a HUGE fan of the 801 series tractors, I just can't come to appreciate these 901 series. They're kinda hard to look at.

Wow where's the love!

 

[BungeeII]

I knew I shouldn't have said anything. :laughing:

Man, I love these things:

These, not so much.:laughing:

 

[BungeeII]

Where's the OP, btw. Did we ever figure out what he had?:laughing:



Completely off topic... next to an 801, here's my 2nd favorite tractor (looks anyway):

 

[Soundguy]

I knew I shouldn't have said anything. :laughing:

Man, I love these things:

These, not so much.:laughing:

i'd wager the front axle on that rowcrop wide front is at least as good as the one on the ag modle, if not better....

 

[sparc]

After reading through this thread and following the links and reading up on this series of tractors I think I will keep looking for something other than the 8n.

 

[downslope]

Where's the OP, btw. Did we ever figure out what he had?:laughing:



Completely off topic... next to an 801, here's my 2nd favorite tractor (looks anyway):

Hey, I'm still here. This thread took a while to get rolling and I've been busy with field work. Bungee, I guess you like those egg-crate grills. :laughing:
The tractor is at my friend's place 2 miles up the road. I think he suspected something wasn't right with the model# when he bought it, but he likes the 801's too and it runs good. Maybe someone switched the side panels since it sure didn't look like a 900/901 in the quick look I took last week. I'll try to get back there and take a few pics.

About the 5-speed transmissions, were they as trouble free as the 4-speeds or were there some known issues?

Thanks for all the info.

 

[Soundguy]

the doglegs are 100% non compatible on the rowcrop and the ag modle.. but the upper hood panels are compatible, migth just be wrong decals too.

5spd is a good tranny... makes for a non synchro shuttle with 3 + R on the same gate.

the 4 are tough.. but when worn.. they will stick you in 2 gears. rare to hear of that on a 5spd...

 

[rambler]

As a row crop farmer, I prefer the 960 over an 800 model. But it's ok to disagree on this. Don't see many 800 series around here at all, tho the 900's aren't xactly plentiful either.

We had 2 960's, still have the one I learned to drive on. Ours were/are gas, one narrow front, the one I still have is a schwartz wide front.

--->Paul

 

[Soundguy]

all the 00 models would be gas ( of some sort.. or perhaps a rare tvo model ) diesel was a 1959 luxory with the 01 models..

gotta love the odd look of that swartz wide front.. thought I do like the ford wide front.. 2 part bolster and all.. etc..