8n as a first tractor restoration

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1000$ is gonna be hard to get any sort of ford in running condition, let alone do anything with it.

Even an oil change with walmart oil and fram filters is going to run you about 48$ for the 5g rear end oil, 11$ crankcase oil, and 5$ for a filter.

good points will run you 18$, and a set of plugs 10$.. plug wires another 20$

a running N will generally be in the 1000-2500$ range. the rougher the cheaper.

I have seen some 750-900$ units on the edge of being rolling parts machines. Not something you want as a project though.

a 00/01 series will fall in that same range as the N.

good luck

soundguy


thanks for the info the only thing is that i only have like a $1000 budget (to buy it) since i will be financing this whole project with a 1 month summer job (and what ever else i can save). Probably all i will ever use it for is a harrow, a box blade, and maybe a pto chipper (if i can get enough for that next summer). I will only use it for 1-2 months a year since i will have to keep it at my uncles farm 2000 miles away, so it is more for the restoration. whatever i get i will post the whole project.

Geoff from canada
 
   / 8n as a first tractor restoration #13  
ps.. as a rough calc, figure at least on putting the purchase price back into a machine when refurbing it, and 2x to 3x the purchase price for a true restoration.. that and hundreds of hours of sweat equity.

soundguy
 
   / 8n as a first tractor restoration #14  
I think you are on target with the 8n, but it will take some hunting to find a decent one for $1000. For $2000 you would have your pick of many thousands of servicable machines. Personally, I would take a 1951 Ford 8n over any tractor that Ford ever made (and I did). These tractors represent the most refined form of the first modern utility tractor - the Ford n-series. In my opinion, a step backward was taken when Ford tried to play catchup with other manufactures after the loss of the 3-point exclusivity, and offered an overhead valve-engined tractor in 1953 with the Jubilee. The Jubilee was heavier and bulkier than the 8n, got worse fuel economy, had weak, troublesome hydraulics, and still was only a 2-plow tractor like the flat-head, 8n it replaced. Ford did manage to get many of the bugs out of that machine by 1955 when the 600 series came out and those are not bad tractors. A 1951 or 1952 8n will give you the proofmeter and the side distributer. My prefrence for the 51 is based on the fact that I own one, and Ford was likely using up some "questionable" parts on the 52's as those were the end of the line for the series. 8n's are generally better than 9n/2n because they have position control as well as draft on the hydraulics, brakes on the same side where they should have been to begin with, floorboards, and a 4-speed rather than 3-speed transmission. The 8n's also have a higher speed reverse (same as 3rd forward), while the 9n's/2n's were geared the same as first in reverse (unless you find one with a Sherman trans). Sometimes that low reverse gear may be handy such as for loading a pond-scoop pointed backwards. I find the 3rd reverse ratio perfect for pushing snow backward with a rear blade (make sure you have stabilizer links or you will bend your lower links doing that). I have owned many other tractors but to this day, there is no other that I would prefer on a 2-row corn planter or 3-point carryall than my 1951 Ford 8n (those 2 implements cover about 90% of my usage of that tractor these days). These were great tractors as long as you recognize their limitations and dont try and use them for tasks they are not well suited for. two such tasks that come immediately to mind are: Front loader, and PTO powered equipment operation. If you want to do that stuff at all, then the 8n is closer to the worst than the best choice and certainly a 600 series would be a lot better. If I was in your shoes, my sights would be firmly pointed at an 8n (51-1st, 52-2nd, 50-3rd, 48/49-4th). I bought mine when I was just a little older than you are now. In 30 years, that tractor has never let me down. One things for sure, no one is going to suggest that any tractor by any manufacturer has better parts availability.
 
   / 8n as a first tractor restoration #15  
thanks for the info the only thing is that i only have like a $1000 budget (to buy it) since i will be financing this whole project with a 1 month summer job (and what ever else i can save). Probably all i will ever use it for is a harrow, a box blade, and maybe a pto chipper (if i can get enough for that next summer). I will only use it for 1-2 months a year since i will have to keep it at my uncles farm 2000 miles away, so it is more for the restoration. whatever i get i will post the whole project.

Geoff from canada

With your limited budget, I'd look for something like a Farmall Cub or Farmall Super A as your project tractor.. I have a 1948 cub that I bought for $1100 a few months ago. It's being painted now and needs the distributor rebuilt (about $35 parts). A few years ago I bought a Farmall Super A with a mid-mount sicklebar mower for $1300. It runs OK, but doesn't shift into 1st gear (a fork problem most likely).

The Cub

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The Super A

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The 8N is a larger tractor (28 hp engine vs 11 hp for the Cub and about 15 hp for the Super A) but you're going to pay $2K or better to find an 8N that's runs OK and is still tight.

Good luck. Nothing like getting dirty fingernails working on old iron:)
 
   / 8n as a first tractor restoration #16  
heck.. wd45 can get them up north for 700$ in good ondition.

oil change and paint and they are under 1000$ and a strong machine.

soundguy
 
   / 8n as a first tractor restoration #17  
Glad to see another young tractor enthusiast here on TBN! :thumbsup: I too have considered restoring an old 8N but instead got a Simplicity 9518 or what I now know as a money pit. It was my "restoration" project to fix up a Diesel CUT to working condition. However due to the wonderful wet climate here in Oregon It needs some major over haul work done. I have put $1700 into it, I love working on it but don't like the parts bills. I guess that's what I get for buying a tractor that was made in 5 different versions and the parts are not easily obtained. With the 8N it sounds like you have it all planned out on what you want to do with it, both are pretty easy tasks for the 8N and it will do pretty well handling them. :thumbsup: For the restoration, be prepared to spend more than you planned, it will make a difference when it comes to purchasing parts. And best of all have fun with it, it is a great learning experience, you will learn a lot and in the end have a reliable old tractor ready to work for another lifetime. :thumbsup: Here is the thread to my Simplicity tractor if you are interested. :thumbsup: http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/simplicity/156894-simplicity-9518-rebuild.html
 
   / 8n as a first tractor restoration #18  
I been looking for a machine to restore and am leaning toward the Farmall Cub also - low buy in price and TONS of parts. The 8N around here is a decent $1000 machine. so don't give up hope if that is what you really want
 
   / 8n as a first tractor restoration #19  
true.. with depressed markets I have enven seen 01's go for 1200$.. and N in the 1000.. just gotta look.

soundguy
 
   / 8n as a first tractor restoration #20  
true.. with depressed markets I have enven seen 01's go for 1200$.. and N in the 1000.. just gotta look.

soundguy

i bought one the other day for 100 dollars that all i had to do is but a battery on it and it was still six volt and ran like a champ. i am going to buy three this week (2 8n's and 1 9n) for 1000 dollars for all three two is running. where i am at it must be a real nice tractor to bring over 1000 dollars and the best dont bring no more than 2000. i said i was going to quit buying them because i am in the buisness to resale them and u just cant get enough for them but i have been buying them regaly for 200-300 dollars some running some not
 

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