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[Soundguy]

hate to tell you this.. but you may have wasted money buying the hyd tap for the top cover under the seat. yer onboard hyds make plenty of pressure.. but flow will be anemic.. meaning slow.

i have a woods 6500 hoe on an 850 ( i made a partial subframe ), and I run it with a pto pump.. i can run at idle that way.. and have plenty of speed.

 

[jay1864]

How slow are we talking I dont need big speed but not snail speed I can still return the block still in box just concerned about price of pto setup

 

[Soundguy]

that onboard pump is likely a bit less than 7gpm or so.. and that imho will be dismal on a hoe.. AND yer engine will be screamin to get full pump output.

then again.. how big is the hoe? is it teeny? if the cyls are small displacement.. may work

 

[jay1864]

Not a big hoe it was on a kubota b7610

 

[Soundguy]

ok.. what does it's manual say that it wants to be fed with?

if it's about 6gpm .. then with engine at full gov'd rpm.. you can do it.

if it is happy with 4gpm.. you can do it about 2/3 throttle.

if it wants 8-10.. bring a book

 

[jay1864]

I don't have the specs yet but the guy who has it says2-3 it is a woods model BH70-X and I am having a hard time finding info I am only picking it up on Monday so just trying to plan ahead

 

[Soundguy]

here you go:

BH70-X Backhoes

 

[Soundguy]

and manuals

http://www.woodsequipment.com/uploadedFiles/Products/Manuals/MAN0450.pdf

http://www.woodsequipment.com/uploadedFiles/Products/Manuals/MAN0983.pdf

 

[Soundguy]

according to the manual your operating flow range is 4-6 gpm

I'd say you can do it.

If it will run ok at 4 that will let you keep the rpms down from 'scream' to just 'loud'

 

[jay1864]

The guy claims the model is a BH170 x would this be an older model of BH70-X .I questioned him but he said it was a 170

 

[Soundguy]

well.. need to know EXACTLY what it is...

i don't know of a woods 170.. not saying there is not one.. i just am not aware of one.

 

[jay1864]

Sent an email to woods head office they said it was BH70-X meeting the seller on monday mystery will be solved

 

[Soundguy]

the manuals I linked should help you id it if any question remains as to if it is a 70

 

[jay1864]

Thanks for the links will decide on best avenue when model is confirmed watch for results your advice is appreciated

 

[Soundguy]

best of luck.

hoe are spendy.. .. but nice to have when needed.

i don't use my 6500 MUCH.. but when i HAVE used it.. it was the only tool that would work for that job.. etc..

 

[jay1864]

Price is right but will know for sure when I see it less than half price hopefully it will work out

 

[Soundguy]

getting a subframe with it?

if not.. fab one up for some added safety. 3pt hoe are a tad rough on CUT's

ANY extra bracing you can add will be helpfull

 

[jay1864]

Sub frame is with it but was on kubota will have to get the grinder and welder fired up

 

[Soundguy]

Sub frame is with it but was on kubota will have to get the grinder and welder fired up

yep. welder and torch make most things fit.

that's the old joke on some of the antique tractor forums. someone will come on and ask somehing like.. will the loader on my oliver 550 mount onto my ford 860

we say.. 'you got a welder and torch?'