97 octane in BX2230

[funwithahoe]

any big purchase that you have had your eye on? looks like if you play your cards right you have a free pass.
In a distracted, quiet, almost hurt voice "I don't care if the motor is ruined, I appreciate you trying to help. I love you...I have been thinking about a new tractor anyway"

I am pretty sure my wife would not touch the tractor unless the garage was on fire and even then its probably 50/50.
Not the same at all but I've seen probably 20 gas cars with diesel and almost none of them have required more than dropping the tank and draining/cleaning everything

True - This is a good time to pretend the whole thing is ruined - Had your eye on an "L" series - This is the time!

 

[DiezNutz]

I can pull the fuel tank, blow out the lines and replace the fuel filters, but I'm not sure about pulling the injectors. Is that a big job?

If you have to ask, then... yes.

I wasn't actually suggesting you pull the injectors. I wouldn't even recommended it if you don't have your WSM that details the proper procedures/tightening torques, the proper tools, and some experience or at least knowledge of how to work on a diesel injection system without contaminating it or causing yourself worse problems. Typically anytime the injectors are pulled, the heat shield/gaskets have to be replaced (and should), which is not obvious to Average Joe. So maybe it's a job for Above-Average Joe.

Let's say you pull the injectors... then what? Unless you happen to have an injector pressure tester sitting around, not much, which means you'd want to take them to the dealer. The reason for pulling them would be to disassemble/clean the nozzles (probably fouled), inspect for scuffing or other issues, replace any parts needed, and test them. Otherwise, they're an unknown quantity.

Having said that, is it completely necessary? Perhaps not. It's proper procedure/what should be done, and it also provides an opportunity to completely purge the pump, injector pipes, and injectors before causing further issues, but you might get away without doing it.

The other guys seem to be saying don't worry about it, so do the best you can to clean everything out and go for it. :thumbsup:

P.S. - there's also been some other good advice in this thread w.r.t. an oil change & fuel additives. You can find Power Service at WallyWorld.

 

[LBrown59]

That may be what I have been doing wrong... If I could learn that I might be able to sleep in the house...:thumbsup:

I like sleepin in the house .

 

[keyman1808]

Thats why I keep all my fuel under lock and key, well actuall combination. So if someone needs fuel I can ask which machine and tell them what fuel can to grab. Already had someone put diesel in a gas push mower. Wont let this happen again.

 

[kuboman]

No need to pull the fuel tank. Just drain it from the bottom.



Remember that there are diesel engines that actually require gasoline to start. The old CATs are an example.

...the old cats had a seperate gas starting engine which had nothing to do with the diesel injection system. Some old international tractors used gas to start on then switch to diesel but they also had nothing to do with the diesel injection.

 

[czechsonofagun]

LOL, we had it happen in our club to one of the mowing tractors. It was diesel in gas or vice versa. It can be easy to confuse.

I have cans with sharpie writing on them to make sure nobody messes up but still I prefer to fill it myself.

 

[KennyV]

I will be interested to see how you come out with this, I have seen this happen before... do post back with how it works out... KennyV

 

[brandoro]

The dealer I have used for years sold a tractor that was used by many, maintained by none and run out of fuel many, many times and filled with gas several times. The gas thing happened quite a few times before any expensive damage occured.
I agree with previous posters who suggest that you drain out as much gas as possible, fill with fresh diesel, a fuel aditive wouldn't hurt, and crank it up without the glow plugs. It will probably sound ugly and smoke some at first but should be okay otherwise.
And yeah, don't call it gas.:thumbsup:

 

[akoliver]

Thanks for the advise. Unfortunately, I won't have a chance to look at it for a week. I'll let you know how it turns out. Maybe I'll have her there for the initial startup and she'll decide I need that new B3300 I've been eyeing!

 

[newbury]

Thats why I keep all my fuel under lock and key, well actuall combination. So if someone needs fuel I can ask which machine and tell them what fuel can to grab. Already had someone put diesel in a gas push mower. Wont let this happen again.

Had my kids do that, I could pull and pull and it would only fire once.

To the OP -
1. definitely get in the habit of saying "fuel", and correct other close associates when they say gas but mean diesel.

2. Double the regular amount of PS for the first tank.

3. Save the incidence in a writeup for when you ruin her [fill in the blank] by mistake. It might take ten years.

4. DON'T use it as an example to your cohorts. Word will get back to her, and you will use up the chits in #3.

Now if someone did that to my '09 VW diesel it's a whole bigger problem
How-To: Defuel 09 Jetta after misfuel - TDIClub Forums

 

[brandoro]

Thanks for the advise. Unfortunately, I won't have a chance to look at it for a week. I'll let you know how it turns out. Maybe I'll have her there for the initial startup and she'll decide I need that new B3300 I've been eyeing!

Your week is up.
Did your tractor survive or are you in mourning??

 

[easygo]

Yes. I'm awaiting the results on the edge of my chair. Thank you for posting this. Although my wife and my three-year-old never use the tractor I will from this day forward be very clear about tractor, lawnmower and chainsaw fuels.

edit: I believe that kerosene is a close relative of diesel and in the Northern states when filling stations switch to winter fuel there is a certain percentage of kerosene mixed into diesel to prevent gelling. I remember reading something in the neighborhood of 20% or so. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[leonz]

Yes. I'm awaiting the results on the edge of my chair. Thank you for posting this. Although my wife and my three-year-old never use the tractor I will from this day forward be very clear about tractor, lawnmower and chainsaw fuels.

edit: I believe that kerosene is a close relative of diesel and in the Northern states when filling stations switch to winter fuel there is a certain percentage of kerosene mixed into diesel to prevent gelling. I remember reading something in the neighborhood of 20% or so. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Kerosene is related to jet fuel etc. JP 3, 4, 5, etc.




Its a truth in labeling thing where everyone has to sell straight diesel with the cetane level intact (you need to buy the diesel with the highest cetane level) and you have to either cut it yourself with kero or gasoline or the crazy fuel anti gelling/waxing additives like heat etc., sea foam should be on your weekly to do list and in all your fuels.




The diesel fuel is stored underground and does not get that cold to wax up( ground temperature is 52 degrees at 4 feet in depth typically) unless its in an exposed above ground tank or a tank in a car or truck.



You can bypass the whole mess and buy a RACOR diesel fuel filter which has a thermostat controlled heating element in the bottom of the sediment bowl and never have to worry about blending for cold weather at all as it will stop any waxing period.

 

[akoliver]

I finally got some closure on my wrong fuel incident last week. I have been out of town on business and didn't have time to mess with it for a long time.
Anyway, per all ya'lls advise, I drained the fuel system and replaced both fuel filters. Tried to blow out the lines with limited success, and filled it up with fresh gas... I mean Diesel. Took less than an hour total. Turned over almost immediately, and runs like a champ. Tough little tractor!
Thanks for the info! I was really sweating it initially.

 

[jimmer2880]

Glad to hear the outcome. Also glad it was a positive one at that

 

[radioman]

awesome! you got it up and running! :thumbsup:

 

[brandoro]

Good to hear. What I expected considering that other tractor I knew of that had been filled with gas several times before it hurt it at all but, you never know for sure until you have it running again.

 

[ENTS]

And I thought my wife was the only one to do this. She topped off our 2230 with the red can (and she's been schooled on color codes of cans). Finished mowing and parked it. For what ever reason, that night at dinner she mentioned she topped off. Knowing my wife, I immediately asked what color was the can? She replied "The red one in the shed (a slight pause here and then) That was the wrong one wasn't it?"

Well no damage there since it was probably 50/50. BTW -- I take my old chain saw fuel (more than a month old) and dump it into the 933 Cat. It's never more than a gal. at a time and I doubt that will ever hurt that beast.

 

[KennyV]

BTW -- I take my old chain saw fuel (more than a month old) and dump it into the 933 Cat. It's never more than a gal. at a time and I doubt that will ever hurt that beast.

I had a Cat 933 for years... great machine with one of the best engines I have had... KennyV

 

[allen in texas]

Just so you know, and this is to further the advice to thank your wife for trying to help out...

A harley don't run worth crap with a full tank of diesel.


Don't ask me how I know. :ashamed: