a gun....a tool?

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#91  
It wasn't the use of the gun that got him in trouble, it was the choice of the target. Now if he had shot out a window or something that he knew had value, that would have been different. He just had no idea what that glass bulb was for, didn't realize it had a use.
 
   / a gun....a tool? #92  
Cindi; I mean this in the kindest most pleasant way....WRONG !!! His misstake was MISS USEING A FIREARM. period. You have been duped by the "mommy" factor if you truelly believe a 14 year old didn't know what a meter was or that he would damage it. And what about the second and third shot ? Is this young man really going to be driveing in two years ? Will he "know" that a car is dangerous ? Will he be responsible ? I'm sure he's a good kid and this was NOT a "crime". I really think the biggest problem is your defense of this incredibly poor judgement. Wrong is wrong. Kindest Regards, Dave
 
   / a gun....a tool? #93  
Say Dave, my wife has one of those 25 autos. And as for throwing rocks, I believe I would rather she threw rocks at me, than to shoot as many times as I know she would if needed. She is a pretty good shot, and if she shot anyone that many times, I don't think they would be able to walk away, or maybe even be able to crawl away. Where as with rocks I'm sure they most likely could, she couldn't throw hard enough to hurt them that bad. lol. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
   / a gun....a tool?
  • Thread Starter
#94  
Well I know it was a dumb thing to do, and he knows it was a dumb thing to do, poor choice, even if it was innocent or not.

I just view the tragic misuse of a firearm as something that might result in harm to a living thing, not an inanimate object. I'm a little confused about what is so dangerous or irresponsible about shooting up the glass case on an electric meter. I'm not sure what you guys want me to say. That he has been banned from use of guns? Or that he will never have access to another one? I think he is guilty of poor judgement but I don't think I have a ticking time bomb walking around. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

You guys are going to have to help me out here, I don't know what you want me to say. He learned to check first before he takes target practice, and he learned that he has to pay for his mistakes. Where did I go wrong? What is it in this situation that raises the little short hairs on the back of your necks?

I could understand if he pointed it at a person or an animal or injured someone. But to use an item for target practice that turned out to be a useful item, I just don't see this as a major red flag. If I found a bunch of BB holes in my windshield or the windows of the house, you can bet I wouldn't be above tearing his butt up, but it is not that big a stretch for me to believe that he honestly didn't know that it was an important object as I have been hanging around kids for twenty years and if they're nothing else, they're thoughtless most of the time.

Maybe you had to be there. I saw the look on his face when he was informed that not only was this a useful item but he was going to have to work to pay to pay for it. Priceless. Having fourteen years seniority with this kid I can usually tell when he's sincere, and end result ......he had to make it right.
 
   / a gun....a tool? #95  
Dick; Ok you got me. A .25 is slightly better than throwing rocks. Most I have had would put perhaps 3 of ten shots in a 4' x 4' target at 10'. It should also be said in spite of a good velocity the little .25 does offer the reliability of cycleing depandably as a centerfire round. As you mention NO ONE wants tio get shot not even with the surely .25 auto. Has any one seen one of the little Kel-Tec .32 autos ? 4.4 oz. Not for me but I am sure they have a fan club as well.
Cindy; I am not sure what others "want you to say". My self I just dont want to hear than a 14 year old did nothing wrong with the gun other than to choose a poor target. If he did not actually know better then shame on the person who gave him the gun. As far as not haveing guns, yup I would say that would be the answer in my book. At least for a little bit. He sure wouldn't have been fddelin with a .243 a few days later. But as you mentioned I am not there nor am I you and we all see and do thing differently. Thats the beauty of this country we call home. Dave
 
   / a gun....a tool? #96  
( I'm a little confused about what is so dangerous or irresponsible about shooting up the glass case on an electric meter )
The boy does not know what an electric meter is ?
1st off all he needs to know what his target is or consists of and the consequences/results of his actions before the trigger is pulled.
 
   / a gun....a tool?
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#97  
Okay nuff said. By the way, the meter is on a pole at the corner of the property, not on the side of the house.
 
   / a gun....a tool? #98  
If that's all he ever shoots that he isn't supposed to I wouldn't sweat it too much. The popular targets when I was a kid were the line insulators on the power poles. Everyone does stupid stuff when they are a kid but nowdays most parents go out of their way to not correct the kid when they screw up. If they do correct the little darling they act like serious problems that need serious correcting are not very important so as to not hurt the little twerp's feelings. As long as he got the message that what he did was not to be repeated I don't think you'll have a problem. At least with him shooting the meter, he'll probably swipe the truck again the next time you're out of sight. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
 
   / a gun....a tool? #99  
Man Dave you have had some bad 25's, her's is a Raven, not the best, but it hits better than you say. When anyone mentions a 32, I always think of what my stepdad said one time. He said as a kid he had one, and thought he would target practice with it, and shot at a tree, and it didn't even skin the bark and he got rid of it and wouldn't have a 32. I can't believe they are all that bad, but he believed it anyway. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
   / a gun....a tool? #100  
"When anyone mentions a 32, I always think of what my stepdad said one time. ..."

One of my handguns is a Beretta .32 ACP Tomcat. Winchester Silvertips are a good round for this mouse gun. Not my favorite to carry, but a mouse gun is better then no gun...right?

There was a case in York, PA several years back where a carload of thugs were harassing a guy and his girlfriend. There was an altercation at an ATM (not sure, but probably an attempted robbery) and the guy shot one of the thugs with a .32. Did the job...stopped the fight. No changes against the guy, since it was a clearcut case of self defense.

So, .32 may not be the best choice for self defense, but depending how you're dressed and where you're going, that mouse gun may be your only option.
 

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