A question of grapples

   / A question of grapples #1  

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I've been strongly considering getting a grapple lately (more strongly than previous... this has been an 8-year effort, starting before I had the tractor!).

Currently when I'm clearing brush & trees, I cut (with saw or loppers) branches and make piles about 6' wide, 4-6' tall, and however deep they need to be to stand up; I mash the pile down with the tractor forks and move the forks back and forth a bit in hopes of getting the brush & branches tangled a bit, then I scoop with the forks and either put it in my pile storage area (to dry & wait for a burning day) or move to my burn spot.

My proposed use of a grapple is also to pick up stuff that I've kinda bulldozed with the bucket - in dense areas I'll push within reason and often manage to uproot quite a bit of brush (especially manzanita, as well as blackberries - piranha tooth bar really grabs stuff well!) and smaller trees and this produces a fairly dense mat of stuff, and currently I end up cutting it up in situ or pull it out by hand to cut up into the above piles. A grapple would likely make this a lot easier by pulling chunks out that I can more easily separate.

The big question I have though is about those piles I make; the grapples I've seen seem nice from the relatively light grabbing tool standpoint, but my concern is that most of these have a maximum jaw opening of about 36-39"
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and if I'm limited to grabbing smaller piles, that's a lot more driving across the property and reduces the effectiveness.

It seems likely though that one could approach such a pile from above with the jaws open, and crush the pile in the jaws - definitely when I put my forks down from above things get smaller (the piles are probably 80% air) so it seems possible that a grapple may be able grab it all in one go, but I'm reticent to drop $3k on something that might not fit the bill. Currently I do move those piles with the forks, but it's tough to get a pile on a steeper hillside - and tougher to keep it on the forks. When I'm working on flats, I only lose an occasional branch which is tolerable, but when the whole pile falls off it's a pain, and so while I'll occasionally chain or strap it to keep together, that's extra steps I'd like to get the grapple to avoid.

I was also considering a log grapple
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but it likely has the same pile-grabbing questions as the above (though the max opening of 42" is more than most other grapples it seems, but as it's not as wide it would depend that much more on a well-constructed pile; I do make an effort now to put longer stuff on the bottom because I'm just picking up with forks, but being able to make a heap with less concern about branch length would be a plus).

There's also the pallet fork grapple, or thumb
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I suspect the fork thumb has the tallest "opening"; that grapple lid probably doesn't open any further than in the pic. Both of these are cheaper, but it seems to me that neither is likely to be very useful in pulling apart a matted pile of trees and shrubs.


As my main use is probably in moving piles of hand-cut brush and branches, I'm most interested in hearing from people who have a similar practice.

[And yes, I have a 3rd function / diverter on the loader already]
 
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Mine open to 54'', and with technique you can grab quite a bit I would tilt so the top lid contact the pile first press it down and tilt back for the tines to slide under.. but if you don't have a bigger tractor then your Branson 3520h this one below is too big for you.

 
   / A question of grapples #3  
I have a home made thumb type grapple that I bolt on top of my loader bucket. I can haul more brush easier with than I can with forks.

Do you have any friends with a grapple that you can watch being used? Depending on style they will crush a pile of brush significantly.
 
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#4  
Mine open to 54'', and with technique you can grab quite a bit I would tilt so the top lid contact the pile first press it down and tilt back for the tines to slide under.. but if you don't have a bigger tractor then your Branson 3520h this one below is too big for you.

Yes, it's for the 3520h.
It can pick up 2000#, but losing 1/2 of that to the grapple wouldn't be pleasant, and having so much weight would make hills more difficult in general.
I'm hoping to be in the 400-500# range.
 
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#5  
I have a home made thumb type grapple that I bolt on top of my loader bucket. I can haul more brush easier with than I can with forks.

Do you have any friends with a grapple that you can watch being used? Depending on style they will crush a pile of brush significantly.
Unfortunately (for me, not society :p) I'm practically a hermit.
One nearby friend who I encouraged to get a tractor doesn't have a grapple.
 
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I suspect neighbors may feel the same about me 😁
It's nice having a sparse neighborhood... unfortunately the guy right next door (ok it's 1/4 mile away) has started at least three fires, two of which I called the FD on. One I was out mowing and helped put it out before it was necessary to call for outside help... I was nice about it though, just said "yeah watch out for those blackberry brambles, they may look green but as you can see they'll burn real good" and that was 3 years ago, hopefully he's finally learned the lesson?
 
   / A question of grapples #8  
If you are going to get a grapple, and I use mine often on my BX2680, make sure and put an expanded metal brush guard insert on your front brush guard to protect your radiator. If not it’s not if you will put a limb through the radiator it’s when
 
   / A question of grapples #9  
I have a Land Pride SGC 1560 grapple. 820 pounds of AR400 steel. I'm able to lift 3400 pounds - according to my FEL weight lift chart. I've never lifted that much. Rough, soft ground - unseen holes and mounds -- no need to press my luck. Normally I will go up to 2600 to 2800 pounds.

Also - I never lift a heavy load up high. Heavy loads are mainly moving chunks of pine tree trunk or heavy rocks. My procedure is called "knuckle dragging". Just high enough so the grapple does not leave drag marks in the dirt.

When moving limbs or brush. Use the top lid as a big garden rake. Rake back until I have everything in a pile. Raise the grapple and rotate until is pointed straight down. Come down on the pile with jaws wide open. Compress the pile. Slowly close the jaws as I raise the grapple. Works for me.

I also use the grapple to rip out great clumps of brush. With just the upper portion of the brush in the grapple jaws - dirt falls off the roots with a little shaking.
 
   / A question of grapples #10  
Unfortunately (for me, not society :p) I'm practically a hermit.
One nearby friend who I encouraged to get a tractor doesn't have a grapple.

If you happen to be in the SF bay area you can come by and see mine in action.

I have a EA Wicked grapple, the type with the long bottom tines. Mine's dual lid but that probably makes less difference.

I pick up brush and branch piles often with it. With some practice I can cram a lot in there. Sometimes by grabbing down from above, or if the pile's smaller, pushing with the lower jaws along the ground to cram more in there.

It works ok for logs too. It's kind of a compromise there, a dedicated log grapple would probably be better. But I can get it loaded pretty well. And it opens wide enough to grab a 8' long log that weighs more than the loader can lift. (I think we have the same loader)

It's not good for raking stuff up. You have to tip the tines down and they either skid of dig in. A rake type grapple with the short bottom tines would do better there.
 
 

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