About to Buy, Need Advice

   / About to Buy, Need Advice #11  
Mahindra, Kioti and Branson/Century are great machines and you get a lot for your money. The resale issue has been debated so many times, but essentially you pay less for the machine and it is worth less when you sell it. So where is the loss? At least here in California where I live (and sell tractors), we never see people trying to give away a used Branson, Mahindra or Kioti. As soon as one is advertised, it is gone. It may be different elsewhere, but that is the case here.

The Chinese tractors are worth a lot less, but again they are very cheap to purchase. In my opinion, they aren't a good value unless you enjoy working on your tractor and are willing to accept old technology and poor ergonomics. Some really like them though, so to each his own. Certainly you get a lot of metal per $$.

On the grays, you likely will not get power-steering and you will not get a ROPS. Parts are available, but they will often need to be ordered and sent to you. Sometimes you will have to settle for a used part or an aftermarket part, or have a dealer order the part direct from Japan. Quality is good, but they certainly have issues, especially if you don't have a capable dealer behind you. I sell them, as well as Mahindra and Branson, but a gray market tractor isn't for everyone or every application.

On a world-wide basis, Mahindra sells about the same amount of units as John Deere and Kubota, sometimes more. They are relatively new in the USA, about 10 years, so the dealer network is still being developed, but it is growing very quickly. The smaller Mahindra's are built in Japan by Mitsubishi, the medium size in S. Korea, and the larger ones in India.

Back on resale for a minute, all brands suffer a loss from new to used. If you finance, there is more to consider. For example, a used JD (or other major brand) with let's say 100 hours on it will generally not be offered with 0% financing (unless it is a rental return). If you have to finance through a typical used tractor rate you will pay about 7.5%. That will cost you about $2000 in interest. So right off the bat, the used tractor is worth $2000 less to the typical buyer. Then deduct a little for the 100 hours and a few scratches and you will see that if you can't buy it for $2500 off of new price, it isn't a savings at all.

I've talked a lot about the ones I sell and like, but I will be the first to say that JD, New Holland and Kubota make fine machines. The are recognized by everyone and have well established dealer networks. They are a great choice, but don't be afraid to look at some alternate makes.
 
   / About to Buy, Need Advice #12  
Just another newbie opinion. I've been comparing different brands too. It's definitely mind boggling to look at all the choices. I made a chart on one page to compare the specs for the different makers. I'm looking to buy in the spring, but right now I'm leaning towards the Century 2535. 5 more hp than the Kubota L3130, but no hydrostat. I've seen a wide variety of opinion on that here. Bottom line though, was talking to my local dealer yesterday & I can get a new century 2535 w/ loader for $14,500. Resale means nothing to me as it will probably be here a really long time. I keep looking for something wrong w/ it because more horsepower for less money doesn't make sense, but other than name brand & hydrostat, it just seems like more tractor for less $$.
 
   / About to Buy, Need Advice #14  
That looks like 3 cents /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
   / About to Buy, Need Advice #15  
I'm not sure if I've seen a Kioti locally, but I think I've read enough to look into them some more. Pricing & power similar to Century?
 
   / About to Buy, Need Advice #16  
Randy. I'm on lunch at work right now so I had to lift my L3010 pricing from another post. This is a new machine priced in Maryland about 2 weeks ago. I don't have the quote in hand but as I recall the hoe was about 5,900.00 and the front snow blade w/ quick attach about 2,600.00 (loader mounted). Doesn't take much to figure this tractor new, no canopy with the 513 loader w/ quick attach 60" bucket , & filled tires was a little under 19,000.00. I had them price this with all the attachments severable from the deal so I know I can do a little better on the entire package deal.

If you are buying used, the interest rate assuming you are financing, and warranty limits, assuming this machine even has some warranty left, become something of real consideration. I wouldn't pay 18K for that machine by the time you get it home and potentially 2K more than the new machine would cost if you are doing a mimimum down payment/financing. I wouldn't even pay that for it outright. I'd buy the new one in that instance and take my good old time at 0% interest. 3 years I think on the new Kubotas. If you can buy it outright that money could be working elsewhere while you do the slow paydown further reducing the costs of the purchase. Even if you are in a tax/no-tax (sales) environment here (I wouldn't bank on that) I'd still buy new. It's a no brainer. You're already there.

L3130 HST
R4 filled tires
LA 513 FEL w/ quick attach and 60" bucket (was thinking narrow that day)
BL 4690 Backhoe w/ 16" bucket
84" Front P/A??? blade w/ quick attach (thought they quoted a 72" blade. That may be a dealer typo??
Total before tax $27,720.00

Happy hunting!!!
 

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