3-Point Hitch Adding Attachments (how big is too big)

   / Adding Attachments (how big is too big) #31  
I agree with everything k0ua said here. And for the John Deere guys, the Kioti CS2410 is the size of a 2305. We are really talking about a lawn mower on steroids, not a tractor.

I had a 6' blade on my 2305 but there was a 47" snow blower clearing the way for it.
 
   / Adding Attachments (how big is too big) #32  
I'm a JD guy, and I do know what size the OP's machine is. Like I said, except for engine power and wheel size, not too far different from my 4110. I know what it would and could do.
 
   / Adding Attachments (how big is too big) #33  
I'm a JD guy, and I do know what size the OP's machine is. Like I said, except for engine power and wheel size, not too far different from my 4110. I know what it would and could do.

The 30% bigger wheel on a 4110 makes all the difference in traction. It's one reason I moved up to a 2720 from a 2305.
 
   / Adding Attachments (how big is too big) #34  
According to the "book" I can handle an 84" box blade, landscape rake or rear blade. Next to the number 84 (doesn't tell me if that's inches - I get to assume that) there is (2,133) I am guessing that is lbs as it doesn't say either. I had put a call into Kioti (not the dealer) on Friday and never heard back from them.

Honestly, I think a 7' box blade on my SCUT would be asking a lot, but I think a 7' back blade or rake might be OK. Then again, I'm new at this and still :confused:

I do like to hear from real world operators though.[/QUOTE]


looking at my ck35 specs the book says I can handle "1829(72) and below" on a box blade and "use the lowest top hole only " that's on a 35 hp tractor how much would an 84" box blade weigh? My lift capacity 24" aft of hitch 1764lbs not sure your book is correct ck25 says 60" box[/QUOTE]


Yes, that sounds about right, and a CK25 is STILL a considerably larger tractor than a CS2410. so if they call for a 60 inch box blade on a CK25, a CS2410 needs about a 48 inch box blade, maybe a 54 inch'er. Depending on the soil he has and what he intends to do with it. A 48 inch box blade will still be wider than his wheels.
 
   / Adding Attachments (how big is too big) #35  
bigtiller said:
The 30% bigger wheel on a 4110 makes all the difference in traction. It's one reason I moved up to a 2720 from a 2305.

I agree with that to some extent. Larger tires do make a difference, but when the weight and power are that close, what one will do, the other will do about as well. Weight has more to do with traction than the size of the tires unless there's a huge difference in size. That's all I was saying.
 
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#36  
Yes I has a CS2410

I think we are all in agreement that an 84" box blade and perhaps even a rear blade, might be too much for this lil guy.
I am quite certain that it will handle a 6' Landscape Rake or Back Blade will work fine.
****, I was pushing 14" of wet snow with the bucket.

So yes, we know the book is wrong and we are past that. We are down to a landscape plane and I think even there, I might be able to get away with 6" though until I really see one in operation, I think I might search for a 5'. I know my neighbor has a 4' he pulls behind a quad.
 
   / Adding Attachments (how big is too big) #37  
A land plane will take about as much power as a box blade. Maybe a tad more. I doubt you'd be very happy, or even able to utilize more than 5' unit and 4' may be better still. It isn't just the weight. The size of a 6' unit on the back of your tractor will be huge in comparison, and it leverages the weight well behind your draft arms. There are videos on youtube of them being used, including the ETA website. They are great tools for sure, but usually require a bit more tractor to run. The thing your neighbor pulls will not be the same as what you will buy for your 3 pt hitch. Most of the tools used behind quads are not a whole lot more than glorified garden tractor implements IMO.
 
   / Adding Attachments (how big is too big) #38  
I have a 4 ft box blade. My 2305 did ok with it, but with all the clay here, I wouldn't rec a 5 box blade for that tractor. I recently traded up to a 2720, and now I could handle the 5 ft.
 
   / Adding Attachments (how big is too big) #39  
Thanks on that tip of 5hp per foot...that helps a lot!
Yeah, I have a feeling I will end up with a hitch on the bucket and the rear especially if I will be adding suitcase weights.
I think to just pull the trailers around, the rear is best, but to park them or launch the boats, the bucket is the best.
Many people on here have mounted a ball or receiver hitch to the top of the bucket and use that instead of the clamp on device you linked to as it WILL slide around with a side load from the trailer (pushing uphill around a corner?).

Well said. I was running 5' RFM's on two tractors and there was a large difference because of the weight of the mowers. The Ford 1210 (12.5 PTO HP) handles a 5' Caroni finish mower with ease. The Kubota B7500 (16 PTO HP) ran a Landpride 5' mower just fine. I swapped the decks to see how they would work on each tractor.
The Kubota felt like the Caroni deck wasn't even there, but the Ford struggled with the heavier Landpride deck. Even with a pair of suitcase weights the Ford was handled by the Landpride. It didn't like dragging the deck uphill. The few extra HP of the Kubota were needed for the heavier Landpride deck. The front wheels were too light to steer well with the deck raised. The weight of the tractor and its distribution really com into play.
I run a 5' bushhog on our B7500 and its ok as long as I take it slow in heavy stuff and have the bucket on for a front weight. The L3830 doesn't hardly notice that its there.

I run a 6' landscape rake or back blade behind the B7500 and it has no problems with the rake (could probably handle a 7' rake) but I have to be careful with the blade or it will stop the B7500 in its tracks if it digs in. The L3830 can be stopped by the blade if I find a good rock or stump, but otherwise it pays little attention to them.

We have a 5' front blade on the BX2660 (with turfs) and it will easily stop it in high range if it digs in. Spins the tires well in low range if the blade catches.

Aaron Z
 

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