Adding front loader to International 1066

[trampey]

I have a International 1066 and bought another tractor with a Bush Hog loader. I want to put the loader on the 1066 but cannot find a place to attach the hydraulic line. I have eight remotes but I assume all are controlled with one of the two the hydraulic levers on my tractor (I know that the rear remotes are controlled with the levers.) In searching the web I found that Jon (BanjoDunn) made the following statement: "Put the loader valve in line to the remote valve you do not need a power beyond plate/valve just make sure your loader valve is open centre, it just means that your oil flow goes to the loader first and then into your remotes. We have done dozens of this type of install over the years and not had a problem." I don't know what that comment means and I don't believe there is a way to contact members and ask for clarification.
Tim

 

[J_J]

What I think he is saying, is to take the pump pressure hose and route it to the new loader valve .

The loader valve will then set the relief for the tractor. All the reliefs should be set the same.

Then run the loader valve PB port with adapter to the remote valves IN port.

Then run the loader return/OUT hose to tank.

 

[trampey]

What I think he is saying, is to take the pump pressure hose and route it to the new loader valve .

The loader valve will then set the relief for the tractor. All the reliefs should be set the same.

Then run the loader valve PB port with adapter to the remote valves IN port.

Then run the loader return/OUT hose to tank.

Thank you, J.J. I talked to a few people who know a whole lot more than me and was warned that if I get it wrong and cause a dead head situation I could quickly destroy the hydraulic pump on my tractor. I can't afford to take that risk. So I am going to discard the hydraulic control that came with the loader and send hoses to the extra remotes (I have eight of them on this tractor). That is cheap, safe and, I pretty sure, will work.
Tim

 

[art]

Many times we have had the control for the loader run from the rear remotes without issues. The tractors of old were normally open center other then the larger deere's which were closed center and yes, they do not mix well! The cpntrol valve at that point could be made a little easier to use then the remote levers.

 

[trampey]

You have nearly 6,000 posts? Wow! Thank you for sharing your knowledge with so many people.
Tim

 

[banjodunn]

G'day Tim if the valve that you had supplied with the loader is open centre then I would be using that as I said if you find the pressure hose that is feeding into the valves for the remotes then you simply take that hose into the IN side of the loader valve and from the OUT/TANK side of the valve go back to the remote valve where you took the pressure hose off and feed into there, this way your loader will work first before your remotes but that is usually not a prob as you don't tend to use both at once. If this is a prob then you will have to do as JJ said and plumb it up with PB. If the tractors relief valve is on the pressure side of the loader valve then we screw the loader relief right up and let the orig relief do the work.

I see you are in Victoria is that Victoria AUS?? As I am in Ararat Victoria and would be willing to talk on the phone if it is of any help




Jon

 

[trampey]

Jon,
I have never done one of these forums but I am amazed that we have all these knowledgeable people out there just freely offering to help. No, I'm in Victoria, Texas. I was told the 1066 has no external lines that have pressure. The remotes work when the hydraulic levers are pushed or pulled, but everything is internal. It is essentially a cast metal system under the seat and no PB kit can be added. I was told the next series International put out (1086) can have a pressure beyond kit added but such cannot be added to the 1066. I'm going to wait a few days to complete this job. (I had already put the loader on the tractor when I realized that the hydraulics were the bigger problem.) I know I can put my four hoses directly to the remotes and use the hydraulic levers to control the loader's up and down and forward and back bucket tilt. So, I believe I am going to be successful. The loader came with control levers for those functions but it is a strange setup. I have the four hoses from the loader coming into the loader's master valve, but only have three hoses coming out of the master valve for connection to the hydraulic system. When I realized I did not know how to set up the system I decided to seek help and it led me to this forum. At present I plan to discard the loader's master valve (this is a Bush Hog 2400 QT loader--small for such a big tractor but what became available) and just use the tractor's hydraulic levers. It would be nice to use the controls that came with the loader but I'm afraid of harming the hydraulic pump on my 1066.
Tim

 

[banjodunn]

G'day Tim no worries with trying to help out that is what we are here for I will have to see if I can find my 66 series book and see if there is a way of tapping into the system I would be surprised if there is not a block that was not made to drag off oil for a loader. There is nothing wrong with using your remotes for the loader it's just that it ties them up if you want to use them for another implement not a big deal but a nuisance at times.

Anyhow best of luck with the fitup and if we can help with anything just ask


Jon

 

[J_J]

Here is another possible option.

Install the loader valve that came with the loader.

Use one of the remote spools to feed the loader valve with the lever locked on.

So the normal path would be something like this. Pump to remote, and remote to 3pt.

Exception would be when you use the loader. Now the flow is pump to remote , remote spool to loader valve, back to remote, then 3pt.

The loader will not tie up the remote, as the loader will have all the flow with the lever locked on, until you use another spool on the remote, and then yu share the pump flow between the loader and another spool..

If the loader and or remote is using all the pump flow, then the 3pt will have none for that time that the valve levers are engaged.

 

[trampey]

Thank you, J.J. I see you have even more posts than Jon. Amazing! I'm going to have the International mechanic come to my land and read your post and we may do just as you suggest.
Tim