additives everywhere!

[MikePA]

ADD, ADHD, Diabetes, Heart disease, Cancer....these are all at record levels. Afflictions that were never heard of 20 years ago are here today.What's changed? Think about it.

Because 2 events occur in proximity doesn't mean there's a cause and effect relationship. Just because the rooster crows and then the sun comes up doesn't mean the rooster caused the sun to come up. Think about it. And life expectancies continue to rise despite all this. Amazing. And longer life expectancies results in the increase of diseases our ancestors didn't live long enough to contract.

Sugars, sodium, hydrogenated oils, preservatives....all a part of our daily intake. To say "poisoning" may be a little too strong for you to accept.

Being "too strong" has nothing to do with it. The issue is truth and stating "our country is being poisoned" isn't truth, it's opinion.

 

[Farmwithjunk]

ADD, ADHD, Diabetes, Heart disease, Cancer....these are all at record levels. Afflictions that were never heard of 20 years ago are here today.

What's changed? Think about it.

Sugars, sodium, hydrogenated oils, preservatives....all a part of our daily intake. To say "poisoning" may be a little too strong for you to accept.

Two sides to those issues. Disease is at record high numbers. So is our population. As the numbers of POSSIBLE victims go up, so would numbers of effected people.

In the last 20 years, it has become more the norm for heart disease, as well as cancer, and all other catastrophic illness's to be properly diagnosed. Numbers today reflect the actual count better than they did 20 years ago. Back when I was a kid, people would die of "old age". Not knowing specifically what killed them. And that "old age" was no so old in many cases.

I'm of the opinion this stuff doesn't do a body any good, but neither did eating tainted meat. Food is MUCH safer nowdays than it was years ago. Food in this country is far safer than in most other areas in the world.

We grow as much of our own food as possible. We can, freeze, and dry quite a bit. We raise chickens for our own eggs. We butcher a couple cows every year, along with a hog every now and then. It WAS an economic matter back 30 years ago, now it's just a "lifestyle" for us. I can't honestly say I feel our home-grown food is any "safer" than what I'd buy at the store. (Tastes better though!)

I can't help but think of Ewell Gibbons. (Remember the commercial, "Some parts of the pine tree are eatable") He died of a massive heart attack. This was the "guru" of natural foods back then. It didn't save him.

Being a bit overweight myself, I can attest to the fact that MOST health issues are lifestyle related or genetic predisposition more so than food content.

All in all, I'd still rather have food without some of this stuff. (Just don't think it's the "killer" some would have us to believe)

 

[Farmwithjunk]

Because 2 events occur in proximity doesn't mean there's a cause and effect relationship. Just because the rooster crows and then the sun comes up doesn't mean the rooster caused the sun to come up. Think about it. And life expectancies continue to rise despite all this. Amazing. And longer life expectancies results in the increase of diseases our ancestors didn't live long enough to contract.

I LIKE that reply! It makes perfect sense. If you don't mind, I'll add that to any future "opinions" I have.

 

[mikim]

I heard on the news just last night that the organic market is growing by 30% per yr ... organic growers can't keep up with demand ...lots of folks are agreeing that the additives are killing us and are changing the way they eat. Course it is more $$ and with the price of fuel going up and driving the price of everything else up - dunno ... maybe we'll all start having our own gardens again, both for health and savings, like it was years ago.

 

[livincountry]

Because 2 events occur in proximity doesn't mean there's a cause and effect relationship. Just because the rooster crows and then the sun comes up doesn't mean the rooster caused the sun to come up. Think about it. And life expectancies continue to rise despite all this. Amazing. And longer life expectancies results in the increase of diseases our ancestors didn't live long enough to contract.


Being "too strong" has nothing to do with it. The issue is truth and stating "our country is being poisoned" isn't truth, it's opinion.

Gee Mike you must work for one of the big food producers or maybe a drug company. This whole board is opinion, I must have struck a nerve.

In 32 years (from 1970 to 2002) our average life expectancy has risen only 7 years(70 to 77 average age at death). That is off the cdc website and was published in 2004.

Don't shoot me...it'll drop the average and conflict with YOUR opinion. Ha ha

 

[Soundguy]

So.. thats better than 'the old days'? When people lived to their 30's from lack of health care and modern meds.. poor nutrition etc? That covers the middle ages thru the beginning of the 20th cent.

If you want to avoid all thos 'poisons'.. you can.. just buy organic... and be happy...

Soundguy

 

[MikePA]

Gee Mike you must work for one of the big food producers or maybe a drug company.

Who I work for is irrelevant.

This whole board is opinion,

That's why it's important to distinguish fact from opinion.

I must have struck a nerve.

Nope, just correcting hyperbole and opinion parading as fact.

 

[EddieWalker]

Some things I just don't worry about. Food from the stores is one of them. I eat junk food on a daily basis, drink soda and beer and overall don't take very good care of myself. If there are some things in meat that don't belong there, I doubt it's any worse than the donut I ate yesterday or the back of popcorn I had last night.

One thing that I have noticed is the kids of today are maturing physically sooner. Nothing scientific, but there seems to be a huge difference in the physicaly apperance of kids today in high school compared to when I was in school.

Talking to people at the gym and different places, we all figure it's from eating more meat, more protien and having a better diet then people did just 30 years ago.

I also lived in several third world countries and the food there was very organic. We killed our own chickens to eat because there was no refrigeration and the beef could be sitting in the African sun for several days. You just never knew how long the flies had been on it. People that I came into contact with, and this is just my personal observations, were not very healthy. The kids didn't physically develop as quickly as they seem to here either.

I know medicine is lacking there and the standard of living isn't very high either, but in my mind, I think that our protein intake as kids determine our physical development.

Just my thoughts,
Eddie

 

[Highbeam]

I agree Eddie, as I sit here drinking coffee with mysteriously preserved coffeemate hazelnut creamer, this is a major "don't sweat the small stuff" issue. If it tastes good, eat it. Eat as much as you want until it doesn't taste good anymore. I still eat ramen noodles and otter pops because they make me happy. I see it as knocking out the wheelchair years.

I'm not that old. My childhood and my adult life have been spent eating meat every day for at least one meal. If it didn't have a heart beat then it isn't dinner. I wonder if this way of life explains the high protein intake you speak of.

I will pay extra for products without preservatives if they have a better taste or texture than those with. For example, Breyers natural vanilla ice cream is twice as expensive as the store brand but I love it and ate tons of it. There is no carrageanan and supposedly all natural ingredients just as if I made it at home. They recently messed it up by adding some kind of gum crap to it to make it taste and feel like the other brands so I will now buy the store brand. The health impacts of the additional preservatives are of no concern.

I have observed that in America we can choose to avoid nearly every additive out there if we have time and money to spend toward such things.

 

[flwiii]

ADD, ADHD, Diabetes, Heart disease, Cancer....these are all at record levels. Afflictions that were never heard of 20 years ago are here today.

What's changed? Think about it.

Sugars, sodium, hydrogenated oils, preservatives....all a part of our daily intake. To say "poisoning" may be a little too strong for you to accept.

I have to agree partly with livincountry and partly with MikePA, the additives may or may not kill us, its more what we eat than what's in what we eat in concert with sedintary lifestyles that affects our overall health. The lack of exercise is probably the biggest contributor in the health area. We don't get enough of it.
Due to the sedintary lifestyles of many modern day children (living in front of TV or Game Controller), we have record occurances of type 2 diabetes in children that was unheard of in years past. This was generally a disease that hit people over 40 thus the nick name "Adult Onset Diabetes". I would suggest a review of the movie "Supersize Me". It is quite an interesting movie.