Eddie, I recall reading quite some time ago, in The Reader's Digest if I remember right, a story a lady sent in saying that they had recently moved way out in the country and had a big tree that needed to come down, but she was afraid it might fall the wrong direction and hit the house. Now I don't remember all the exact wording in the story, but she said when a guy came to give her an estimate she asked about insurance and he told her he didn't have that kind of insurance, but that he would leave his pickup parked right where it was while he cut the tree down. She said his brand new pickup was parked between the tree and the house. He got the job. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif I guess if you tell whoever you hire that he has to park on the shoulder of the road by that tree, you'll find out how confident he is. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif