Advice Needed...Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1

   / Advice Needed...Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 #22  
Another app success for a Galaxy Note -
I'm was in HD trying to buy a DuraHeat Battery-Powered Siphon Pump. Sales droids couldn't figure out what I was talking about. I called it up on the Note, walked out with two shortly after.

Plus in Home Depot, Lowes, etc. I can SOMETIMES check online for better prices by scanning a bar code. However it seems a lot of stores sell the same thing with a slightly different stock #.
 
   / Advice Needed...Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 #23  
Plus in Home Depot, Lowes, etc. I can SOMETIMES check online for better prices by scanning a bar code. However it seems a lot of stores sell the same thing with a slightly different stock #.

I do that too.

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   / Advice Needed...Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 #24  
Ya.. little different in the Android world.. RAM is what the operating system is on and where most apps go, and 'user memory' or 'ROM' is where all the music and stuff the user puts on goes and has access too.. An SDCard is pretty quick as its the same memory chip type as the ROM.

Close.

Cellphones and tablets have both internal RAM and internal Flash memory. The RAM memory (typically 1 or 2 GB) is where the running portions of the operating system and applications are located. Flash memory (8/16/32 or more GB) is like the hard drive in your computer. It's general storage for applications, pictures, document files, music, video and anything else you can download and/or create on your device. The internal Flash memory is the same as that found in USB thumb drives, SD cards or solid state drives (SSD). On some devices you can add additional storage using SD cards or micro-SD cards or, as others have mentioned, with special adapters/cables you can use actual USB thumb drives. Flash memory is descended from EEPROM memory but isn't normally referred to that way and definitely isn't ROM.
 
   / Advice Needed...Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 #25  
Close.

Cellphones and tablets have both internal RAM and internal Flash memory. The RAM memory (typically 1 or 2 GB) is where the running portions of the operating system and applications are located. Flash memory (8/16/32 or more GB) is like the hard drive in your computer. It's general storage for applications, pictures, document files, music, video and anything else you can download and/or create on your device. The internal Flash memory is the same as that found in USB thumb drives, SD cards or solid state drives (SSD). On some devices you can add additional storage using SD cards or micro-SD cards or, as others have mentioned, with special adapters/cables you can use actual USB thumb drives. Flash memory is descended from EEPROM memory but isn't normally referred to that way and definitely isn't ROM.
I know that ROM isnt what its actually is, but a lot of Android OEMs call it that in the specs.. ei: 2Gb RAM/8Gb ROM. Especially the Chinese..

Example: https://www.google.com/search?q=2gb...:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=fflb


I did say that SDCards were the same memory :)
 
   / Advice Needed...Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 #26  
Yeah the specs offered up by the low-end Chinese makers are frequently poorly written or just plain wrong. :eek: You won't find it mislabeled by the major players like Toshiba, Samsung, ASUS, Acer or even Archos. Anyways... I figure if the right terms are used often enough that perhaps they will catch on. :D

And sorta back on topic...

I love being able to hook up to the WiFi in our Home Depot and find what I'm looking for on my tablet so that I can check the price or show it to the employee so they can find it.
 
   / Advice Needed...Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 #27  
Another app success for a Galaxy Note -
I'm was in HD trying to buy a DuraHeat Battery-Powered Siphon Pump. Sales droids couldn't figure out what I was talking about. I called it up on the Note, walked out with two shortly after.

Plus in Home Depot, Lowes, etc. I can SOMETIMES check online for better prices by scanning a bar code. However it seems a lot of stores sell the same thing with a slightly different stock #.

The RAM vs. ROM question for Android was already explained well as RAM being allocated for AOS, Programs, and whatever is left for user data. ROM as in micro-SD or SD cards is user memory for data and some preference storage, BUT there are some App-To-SD apps that can move large parts of some apps to SD, freeing the more limited OS memory. Unfortunately, my Galaxy Tab 10.1 doesn't support SD's internally, so that isn't an option for mine, but on my wife's 7.0+, it is a great option.

Also for price comparisons try the APP Red Lasrr, just scan a bar code, and look online for prices of the exact item nearby.

Thomas
 
   / Advice Needed...Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 #28  
I think what Midniteoyl is saying is that ROM (Read-Only Memory) is a misnomer. That acronym was created to describe chips that were burned and inserted to always provide the same instructions and data like the bootstrap memory on personal computers. Next, there were EPROMs (Erasable Programmable Read Only Memory) and EEPROMs (Electrical Erasable Programmable Read Only Memory). I believe the EPROMs used UV light to erase. Essentially, today's memory is Flash Memory. It's a high order EEPROM that has gained erase and re-write speed over the traditional EEROMS. It is non-volatile such that it does not lose its data when the power is turned off.

RAM in today's computers is DRAM and SRAM. DRAM is Dynamic Random Access Memory and requires a refresh cycle to maintain memory. Thus, the computer has to be designed to have a clocked refresh cycle or the memory loses it data and goes to an uncertain state. SRAM is Static Random Access Memory and does not have to be refreshed. It will maintain the data until power is completely removed. SRAM is normally a bit slower than Dynamic Ram, but it has less housekeeping requirements.

If you already know all of this, please check my facts and make sure I'm stating this correctly. As Midniteoyl suggested, I think ROM memory is a misnomer and it should be called Flash memory or EEROM memory to be perfectly clear about it's structure.
 
   / Advice Needed...Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 #29  
I think what Midniteoyl is saying is that ROM (Read-Only Memory) is a misnomer. That acronym was created to describe chips that were burned and inserted to always provide the same instructions and data like the bootstrap memory on personal computers. Next, there were EPROMs (Erasable Programmable Read Only Memory) and EEPROMs (Electrical Erasable Programmable Read Only Memory). I believe the EPROMs used UV light to erase. Essentially, today's memory is Flash Memory. It's a high order EEPROM that has gained erase and re-write speed over the traditional EEROMS. It is non-volatile such that it does not lose its data when the power is turned off.

RAM in today's computers is DRAM and SRAM. DRAM is Dynamic Random Access Memory and requires a refresh cycle to maintain memory. Thus, the computer has to be designed to have a clocked refresh cycle or the memory loses it data and goes to an uncertain state. SRAM is Static Random Access Memory and does not have to be refreshed. It will maintain the data until power is completely removed. SRAM is normally a bit slower than Dynamic Ram, but it has less housekeeping requirements.

If you already know all of this, please check my facts and make sure I'm stating this correctly. As Midniteoyl suggested, I think ROM memory is a misnomer and it should be called Flash memory or EEROM memory to be perfectly clear about it's structure.

Sounds right to me too, but since my (virtual only) owner's manual references it as ROM, I feel no compunction to be TECHNICALLY correct vs. understandable to the OP and anyone else trying to undestand the differences in memory use between Samsung Tabs.

Thanks,
Thomas
 
   / Advice Needed...Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 #30  
for the record, it wasnt me trying to be 'technically correct' ;)
 

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