Advice on choosing the right size tractor

   / Advice on choosing the right size tractor
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I get that the maneuverability in a small field would be little difference. On that I am thinking more about when cutting trails to stands which would be weaving in and out around trees.

Mark in GA
 
   / Advice on choosing the right size tractor #12  
I get that the maneuverability in a small field would be little difference. On that I am thinking more about when cutting trails to stands which would be weaving in and out around trees.

Mark in GA

Granted I don't have either or driven either but I think that even in the scenario your talking about either will perform about the same. I think the frame size may only be like 12" more on the larger ones? Someone with specs or wants to look them up could confirm this maybe you have pulled those stats already? I personally don't think you would notice much difference, there both pretty narrow as far as a tractor goes and the length is what matters esp when slaloming trees to a stand. Maybe some pictures of the area in question and rough guesstimits of trail width in said picture?

A loader on any of these will really take the fast maneuverability in a tight area out.
 
   / Advice on choosing the right size tractor #13  
The advice from Ernie, Winston, and California is all superb. As usual, just listen to them. :)

For cutting and moving dirt, there is no tractor too large or heavy. Dozers exist because nothing equals them for demolishing the rock, roots, and soil between the natural landscape and a road. If you are planning to do a lot of heavy ground engagement, the 2420 is better because it is heavier. You will still hang up on rocks and roots.

If you need maneuverability above all, the 1810 will be advantaged, but not drastically. A 1500 would be more agile. If you are cutting paths for motor vehicles, there is little percentage to buying the more maneuverable tractor, since the road will need to be large anyway. Anything the 2420 cannot drive through would be cumbersome for easy riding with a side by side or golf cart, let alone a pickup, primarily due to the width. Even small tractors with loaders are rather longer than it seems they ought to be.

For footpaths, a few hundred dollars will hire a couple strong high school aged guys for enough time to hack out whatever is required, and be far less hazardous than side-hilling a tractor, ROPS or not, and open up more options than would otherwise be reasonably managed by a tractor, whether for blockage by trees, rocks, or other terrain features. The readily accessible parts of a footpath can be smoothed with the tractor anyway.

There is no such thing as too much power when mowing. More power lets you cut better, faster, and/or wider. You can run a narrower mower with a more powerful tractor, but not a wider one with a lower powered machine. This gives more options when shopping used implements, and opens up options for special sales, discounted display items and so forth when new.

Used rear tires are more prevalent in the sizes for the 2310 and 2420 should unexpected damage to new tires occur, and are a more commonly stocked item generally. The 1810 rears are available and sometimes a bit (say, under $50/tire difference) cheaper when new. To be fair, the tires will likely not need replacing in your lifetime barring catastrophic damage.

Generic service parts (Filters, lubricants, belts, etc) are readily available everywhere, and Hoye sells exact replacement parts for most things likely to break outside of reckless abuse. (Seats, hydraulic pumps, steering boxes and the like) Major chassis castings, complete engine assemblies, internal gears, are often only available as salvage parts, but they ARE out there, to some degree or another. Careful use and good maintenance alleviates any concern on that front, personally.

In sum, I think the perks of going up in size and weight to the 2420 are more likely to be appreciated than the minor advantage you will gain in fitting into slightly tighter spaces with the 1810. If maneuverability is all-important, I would suggest at least considering the option of stepping down a size or two, though it would take some convincing of me to persuade me that building a road a 2420 or 2310 cannot traverse is worth it.

Good luck, let us know what you get!
 
   / Advice on choosing the right size tractor #14  
the 2420d is a great tractor, It might take a bit to get used to the shifter on the column but once you do you'll love it. Also the 2420d sometimes comes with P.S.
 
   / Advice on choosing the right size tractor #15  
2 lots I help keep up with in Ga. 4 miles apart. Neighbors 35 acres with a JD.5103 55Hp. and my 11 acres with a Ym2000 24Hp. IMHO. look at the 2000. Bullet proof that you can get with all the options except the shifter on the dash but power shift. Cheap and easy to work on with a great parts availability. @ 24Hp.which is not much less than the 2420@27 HP. But a big price and parts difference. Fredricks. 500.00$ per Hp.?
I mostly use a 5'Frontier FM. and have a 4' BH. And rarely ever have to run much over 2100 rpms. with the FM.. I now have my 2nd. gear PTO. locking in so it's more like 16-1800rpms. Which will run all day on a gallon of fuel!!! I have "never" came close to having to run wide open throttle.
On the 2000 I don't need PS. with no FEL. and actually had to add front Ballast to the front it was extremely light when lifting them. I can turn my steering wheel easily one handed. Moving or not and I'm basically one arm and handed. The lot that it's on is Half Wooded so the mobility of it is very good. Which makes the JD. useless in my woods.
The JD has a FEL. and PS. of course but now after finding a rear scoop on CL. that works so good I highly doubt the JD. will ever have to be moved to this property that the 2000 can't handle.
The JD. has a Quick connect bucket and it stays off. No one likes it on when mowing which you can easily remove it. And some people have no business having it up there. They have already hit things with it and will easily tear stuff up when they do hit things. It was Big bucks both times!
Here's a pic of it in the back yard which also has a 60' pebble tech. pool up there. Which it was the Fence that was hit and cost Big$ to repair.....
Have you talked to Spalding? Steve's the Man!!!!
 

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   / Advice on choosing the right size tractor #16  
You've already gotten good advice from people that know a lot more than me, but I will tell you that I don't think the maneuverability difference in the tractors will be an issue. I bought a 2210BD from Fredricks last summer, with the Koyker 120 to keep up my 21 acres around my home and to bush hog 8 deer plots at a hunting club once a year. I've had a JD 75 hp tractor for the last 4 years that I use at my farm in another county. I have miles and miles of firelanes to keep up with the JD, and use the little Yanmar for about the same things as you are planning. I notice very little practical difference between the 2 machines are far as working in the woods. there is only 5" of difference in the width of your smallest to the largest, and 9" of length. I think it would seldom even be noticed.

I have to be a little more careful about planning my places to turn around with the big tractor, but there just isn't that much difference. I'd get one of the bigger tractors if I were you. I have all 4' equipment with mine, and the 25 hp engine strains to pull it at times. I have to gear it way down and go slow in the tall grass of a few of the plots. I'm glad I didn't get a 5' rotary cutter. A 5' cutter will be wider than the 2 bigger tractors you are considering, and a 4' will be probably be wider than the small ones. If you are gonna be doing a lot of work in the woods, I'd consider one of the bigger tractors with a 4' cutter that will not be as wide as the tractor. I do not want a bush hog wider than the tractor for woods work. You may be a better operator than me; I'd catch the cutter on a tree sooner or later. The 1' difference will make mowing that 3 acre field a little slower, but if you aren't mowing any more than that I don't think it should be much of an issue.

All just my opinions, and many may disagree. The one thing I wanted to tell you is that I don't think maneuverability should be much of a consideration for what you want to do. Good luck! The little Yanmars are great tractors and Fredricks stands behind their warranty.
 
   / Advice on choosing the right size tractor #17  
Mobility was a main issue for me in buying the YM2000. I FM 3 acres during the season weekly. And the reasons for a 4' BH. was the same width as the 2000. I use it when I do clear the wooded acres and which I never mow any grass with it. And again the JD. will most likely never hit over here until I may clear it. I've kept up with the JD. for over 10yrs. and yes the Yard man has to wash it every weekend. I kid you not it doesn't have a scratch on it. That's why it will probably never hit this property. And here is a pic. of just how thick my woods are. Plus a older lady owns it.:laughing:
 

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   / Advice on choosing the right size tractor #18  
believe it or not, I make it through my 13 acres of wooded trails with my 3110D with loader pretty well without any issues
 

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