Agco Allis 5680?

[Hysyde]

Although my father has been considering a new NH TN75 he came across an Agco Allis 5680 with around 2000 hours that he thought was a good deal.

Does anyone know much about these air-cooled tractors or have any opinions on them?

 

[CMunger]

I think it's a Same built tractor.
Chuck M.

 

[ernemats]

I have an Agco Allis 5660 with air cooled and I love it . It might be a little more noisy than a liquid cooled but you don't have to worry about changing anti freeze in winter . It starts right up without a heater even at 0 degrees.

 

[hobbyfarm]

Hey Hysyde,
I read somewhere that these air-cooled Deutz engines used the same motor oil for all theengine, trans, and hydraulics. This was supposedly a big selling point.
Seems like this is a bad idea.
What have you heard ?
phil

 

[Hysyde]

I had not heard that, but I sure don't like the sounds of it.

 

[Birdhunter1]

The farm next to us has a 6260 Deutz Allis that they use on a fairly large cattle/hay operation. They've had it about 14 years and haven't had any engine problems with it and it is used ALOT. Not sure but I'm guessing this is a 55-65 hp tractor, runs a large round baler mostly (because of the cab), bushhhog, rake, FEl on front with a bale spear, and is used in the winter to feed a bale front and back.

 

[ernemats]

The engine uses regular 15-40 motor oil for diesels. The transmission and the hydraulics use regular hytran fluid like most other tractors.

 

[ZJ_HR]

SAME uses OWN air cooled engines, not a Deutz!!!
Transmission and hydraulic has own oil, and engine has separated oil.
AGCO 5680 is rebadged SAME Explorer
BTW; I have his smaller brother at home /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

[ernemats]

Nice looking tractor. Looks a lot like my agco-allis 5660 but with a cab and different color. I have an alo 310 loader on mine also.

 

[ZJ_HR]

Your 5660 is equal tractor to mine, just with some differences:
- plastic removable hood
- turbo added for 70hp
- stronger rear end (bigger bolts pattern, like on 80 hp models)
- 24F 12R tranny
- 40 km/h (25mph) top speed
- 540/750/1000 shiftable PTO
- front and rear brakes
- front and rear differential lock
- wide metric tires

Cab is aftermarket, factory mounted.

I don't have loader, as 95% of tractors are without them here.

 

[WilliamBos]

SAME does use Deutz engines in their tractors. All depends on which model you get.

 

[ZJ_HR]

Yes, that's true for tractors over 200 hp, but with water cooled Deutz motors.
In the class we are talking about this is not true.
Deutz and SLH have parallel models with air cooled engines. Difference is just motor and colour.

Same Argon = Deutz Agrolux
Same Dorado = Deutz Agroplus

Agco Allis 5680 = Same Explorer = no Deutz air cooled model

 

[WilliamBos]

oh ok thanks. I know the Deutz Agrolux have Deutz air cooled engines..

Thanks

Will

 

[hayman724]

Have 5680 4wd Runs great winter summer, Bales NH 740 with ease and sipps fuel

 

[Georgia_Cattleman]

From the mid - late 1970's until the early part of this decade there was a Deutz/Hesston, then later Agco, dealer in our county that did very well and sold a lot of air cooled Deutz and Agco tractors. I've seen them used in some of the toughest imaginable conditions - chopping corn and hay, plowing, dairying, etc, and they've held up well, don't seem to have any problems not associated with other brands, and appear to have been sound values. As with any used tractor purchase, I'd do some investigating into the machine's usage and background.

But, IMO, the pedigree is sound.