Agco ST 34a, Massey Fergusen1533, Kubota 3130

   / Agco ST 34a, Massey Fergusen1533, Kubota 3130 #11  
Glad to see someone else looking at the agco/massey product. I was a loyal 'bota owner for years, and wanted to get something bigger, and found the agco st34a while wandering a few miles from home. Dealer was great, and the price was amazing compared to several kubota dealers. Only have 20 some hours on now, but seems to be a real workhorse of a tractor. PM me if you would like any more "unbiased" opinion.
 
   / Agco ST 34a, Massey Fergusen1533, Kubota 3130 #12  
<font color="blue"> Tractors are engineered for different functions, </font>
That part is true, but if a company has been the business for over a 100 years and can't figure out a small little tractor, they need to get out.
 
   / Agco ST 34a, Massey Fergusen1533, Kubota 3130 #13  
Kubota and Deere both have been in business over 100 years.

Please, explain your statement, if you dont mind. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Not to put words into your mouth, but are you saying that if a company is doing business THAT long, 100 years, that they should KNOW the tractor business?

I would be hesitant to completely agree with that, if that is what you meant...
 
   / Agco ST 34a, Massey Fergusen1533, Kubota 3130 #14  
<font color="blue"> they should KNOW the tractor business?
</font>
That is exactly what I am saying.
 
   / Agco ST 34a, Massey Fergusen1533, Kubota 3130 #15  
Just because they KNEW the market for a hundred years is no guarantee that they KNOW the emerging market today. The newer players like Iseki MAYBE can capitalize on the successes of the bigger players, like their japanese/korean counterparts - kubota/kioti. In my opinion Iseki CAN have a better chance of succeeding than you might think.

Todays corporate structures are so self serving that they find it difficult to adapt to changing markets. Frankly, 100 years of making tractors makes them more likely to fail due to this very fact.

When you study the locomotive industry this becomes evident and unfortunately, tragic. But do read about Baldwin locomotive and you'll see what I mean. The corporate leaders were not visionaries at all and the industry suffered greatly. Im talking about the change over from steam to diesel.

Here is my point, the bigger players like Deere and Kubota better watch out, because IF the smaller players like Iseki can make great products and offer them cheaper, THEN the deere and kubota market share will decrease. The original poster noted some neat features on the tractor and wondered why the ACGO/Massey line is not more popular.
I assert that the name recognition carries the older known tractors, but that the newer names like Iseki may have equally quality products, but without the name recognition. I chose Kubota for a lot a reasons and I believe the kubota L3130 is an excellent value for the money. It carries name recognition when I sell it someday- thereby hopefully maintaining some intrinsic resale value. But I would not bash the Iseki, knowing that they want their tractor to become popular and are likely more sensitive to whatever consumers want so they can gain market share.

dwight
 
   / Agco ST 34a, Massey Fergusen1533, Kubota 3130 #16  
Thowegian--I think your explanation of the "new breed" tractor owners is about as close to the truth as it can be, especially those who use the compacts. From what I have read on this site they mostly own from 4 to 25 acres and use their machines for mowing, FEL work and grading driveways.
Very well written and informative post!
 
   / Agco ST 34a, Massey Fergusen1533, Kubota 3130 #17  
Here is a picture of an Agco ST35 that I had. Nice tractor but resale value in my neck of the woods is terrible.
 

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