AI and it's usefulness in everyday life?

[paulsharvey]

I want to clarify, no way would I ever base a business plan on AI, but what it does do is let you spit balling a scenario in 30 seconds, and do dozens of them; compared to several hours for each possibility.

On a some what AI/somewhat not note; i was talking to son about why an Indian owned liquor stores works, and it's not racial, it's cultural, and how often a dad/uncle will do a personal loan, and then the owner basically works 12 day, 7 days per week, as the only employee, until they are paid off, and then brings in nephews. But the point was Labor Costs. And for the example, we just figured straight hourly, at $13.50/hour, at 84 hours per week, and kinda just how much Sales have to be made. Point being, there is a Strong incentive to replace as many employees as practical.

Our liquor stores example, I figured $5000/rent or payment; $6050 in labor; $1000 in utilities; and about $1000 in insurance; with a mark up of 30%; that's $43,500 in Sales to break even, every month. On the plus side, that's about 30 people per day; and 6,000 vehicle trips passing it every day.

 

[2manyrocks]

The potential for document fraud and theft using AI is astounding.

 

[HawkinsHollow]

Well, I'm sure there was a cave man that didn't think the sharp stick was good. "Real man beat water Buffalo with fists, sharp stick make man weak"

The analogies you draw between AI and other technologies that have changed human life are kinda ridiculous. Using the technological advantage of a sharp sticks to kill buffalo is a matter of survival. One does not need AI to survive or even thrive. And if you think you do, in my opinion, you are weak. You tout it's benefits, of which I am sure there are many. But the flip side is there are just as many negatives outcomes that stem from this technology. With great power comes great potential for both good and bad. I don't think we can truly grasp what sort of power AI will have in the years to come. I am also amused at how vehemently you are defending this technology. Or do you just like a good debate?

 

[paulsharvey]

The analogies you draw between AI and other technologies that have changed human life are kinda ridiculous. Using the technological advantage of a sharp sticks to kill buffalo is a matter of survival. One does not need AI to survive or even thrive. And if you think you do, in my opinion, you are weak. You tout it's benefits, of which I am sure there are many. But the flip side is there are just as many negatives outcomes that stem from this technology. With great power comes great potential for both good and bad. I don't think we can truly grasp what sort of power AI will have in the years to come. I am also amused at how vehemently you are defending this technology. Or do you just like a good debate?

Yeah, I'm going to disagree. In order to survive, you must make money and be competitive. Right now, you dont, but its coming. That last farmer in 1950s using 4 mules to farm, he didn't survive. Maybe he didn't die, but he didn't survive either. Any kinda profession, you refuse to adopt cell phones, you dont survive. A restaurant that doesn't st the very minimum have their menus online, doesn't survive.

Now, that's not the same as looking at a new tech, and making an informed decision of "that's not for us".

I think your point on the down sides, are largely macro/societal, and those aren't my problem. My only duty is to me and mine.

Ostrich hiding its head in the thunderstorm, doesn't keep it from raining.

 

[paulsharvey]

Heck, the Amish and menonites have adapted. Stationary motors, air tools, having one 'english" guy drive them somewhere, ect

 

[HawkinsHollow]

Yeah, I'm going to disagree. In order to survive, you must make money and be competitive. Right now, you dont, but its coming. That last farmer in 1950s using 4 mules to farm, he didn't survive. Maybe he didn't die, but he didn't survive either. Any kinda profession, you refuse to adopt cell phones, you dont survive. A restaurant that doesn't st the very minimum have their menus online, doesn't survive.

Now, that's not the same as looking at a new tech, and making an informed decision of "that's not for us".

I think your point on the down sides, are largely macro/societal, and those aren't my problem. My only duty is to me and mine.

Ostrich hiding its head in the thunderstorm, doesn't keep it from raining.

In the end I know you are correct, we will all have to succumb to the machine, it is the way of the human race. I think it is very short sighted to think in the long run that is going to be a good thing. This machine is way different than any other machine ever created. But neither of us is going to change the others mind so carry on good sir.

 

[Fixastuff]

I read a sci fi book where everyone had their own personal AI but the more $$ a person or company had the better/faster the AI was.

This made a huge difference in what the person was able to accomplish in the fictional future world.

The other book that comes to mind has something called ladders of technology described in it. Each ladder raised the human race and allowed more and more people to inhabit the Earth. In the end you find out the ladders were given to us by an alien race that was in route to Earth. When they got here they yanked the ladders out(shut down tech like Earth air scrubbers) and caused mass casualties. Then they arrived with the infrastructure already built for them.