Air Compressor Advice

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Will_C

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I think I need a new compressor. Went to turn on my 15 year old Craftsman and it moaned and then tripped a circuit breaker in the garage. I may have a friend look at it (I'm clueless about electric motors, etc.), but I certainly won't be spending much money to fix a 15 year old unit that costs $250 or so new.

That compsssor was a 33 gallon, oil free unit, rated at 150 psi. It did everything I needed it to- inflate tires, ran a 1/2" impact wrench for changing mower blades and tires, etc. I can't see myself needing or wanting anything more from a compressor.

I normally would just get a comparable replacement unit from Sears, but the reviews I have read are terrible on the new Craftsmans.

Any recommendations? Please don't recommend a two stage, 80 gallon compressor-while I have pro quality outdoor power equipment, I don't have the knowledge or ability to utilize pro quality garage equipment (I do the routine services on the vehicles, toys, and tractors, use air to clean things off, and inflate tires). I do want something that should give me another 15 years of service and be able to run my $125 IR 1/2" impact wrench (at work, don't remember the requirements in CFM for that wrench, I'm sure some of you guys will know the requirements of a wrench like that)-hopefully for less than $400.

Thanks,

Will
 
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The big question to ask is will you use the compressor to power contractor type tools, such as air nailers? I have air nailers, so my compressor is portable and this causes me to pay a price in terms of overall capacity and tank size.

If all you need is a shop/garage compressor there are plenty available, but I can't give you a lot of help with a brand. My experience is that the ones which need oil are more quiet and more durable than the oil-free ones.

Personally, I would be inclined to get one from Harbor Freight and keep the rest of the money in my pocket.
 
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I bought a Harbor Freight's Central Pneumatic 10 gallon air compressor 6 years ago to supplement my Rol-Air pancake compressor. It continues to serve me well.

I am pleased to hear you recieved so many years of service from an oiless unit. In the construction field the oil air compressors are the choice of most contractors I have worked with. They are slightly quieter & last longer with constant use.
 
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What I have in the garage right now for use very similar to what you describe - a Senco PC1010 1/2 HP (no oil) which cost $120 or so. It is designed to run small air nailers/staplers but will do more. Sometimes I have it hooked up to a Hyundai 5 gal air tank which cost $35. The Senco on its own will do 75% of what I need. With the extra air tank it will do about 90% of what I need, such as fill large pickup tires and run a 1/2 IR impact wrench doing tires, engine work, front end work. This set up is cheap, quiet, light. It does the light garage work, can be used in the house for trim, and carried onto the roof with one hand if you need it up there. It has got a lot of use for about 2 years now by me and others in the family. Pretty much replaced my 25 year old Emglo which is still going strong but much heavier. At our country place I have a IR 2HP Garage Mate which I got on clearance for $375. It is also several years old and seems like a good piece of equipment for heavier use. I always look at Craftsman out of habit but they dont seem to get very good reviews these days.
 
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If your old Craftsman is a belt drive unit and the only thing wrong is the motor is throwing a breaker, I'd consider a rebuild or repair the best option.
 
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Will;

If it is belt drive, take belt off and see if motor runs. That may tell you if issue is the motor or the compressor.

Good luck!

Rick
 
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If you run an impact wrench (or a spray gun) from it, i wouldnt take an oil free compressor: These things are known to overheat from continuous running to keep up with the demand of an impact wrench or spray gun, which causes the Teflon piston ring to melt and stick the piston. Probably thats what happened to yours as well. Even for hobby use, the occasional hour of continuous running to maintain air pressure for high capacity tools may melt the piston ring. Oiled compressors have metal piston rings like combustion engines, making them a lot more reliable.
 
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Even for hobby use, the occasional hour of continuous running to maintain air pressure for high capacity tools may melt the piston ring.

Renze,

Good advice but...

If the OP truly is running the compressor continuously for "an occasional hour" straight then the OP has a way undersized compressor.

The only thing so far that does this to my 60gal 6.5hp v-twin is my sandblasting cabinet.

I run it till the compressor kicks on; then let it fill back up before resuming the blasting.

Annoying yes but much better than cooking the pump or motor.
 
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If the OP truly is running the compressor continuously for "an occasional hour" straight then the OP has a way undersized compressor.
I toasted mine when spray painting a road sweep i built some years back. with a spray gun it did indeed run allmost continuously, and so it did with the impact wrench, if i used it for e.g. changeing tedder tines, which are mounted with selflocking nuts.
 
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First question would have is how portable it needs to be??

Basically, you arent going to get 15 years out of any oil-less compressors today under $400. They are disposable units.

So you can spend $250-$300 and get a decient horizontal unit. But if it were me, Id get one of the 60 gallon single stage units. They are usually in the $400-$500 range. Lowes has kobalt, TSC has CH, and menards has sanborn. You can save $100 or $150 but IMO, you get ALOT less compressor.

And it isnt just "pro-grade" tools that want alot of air. Even a harbor freight die grinder or air drill sucks alot of air.
 
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Thanks for all the replies. My compressor is not a belt drive .I'll have my friend do a once over and see if can identify any minor problem, but as I wrote, I won't spend very much money fixing a 15 year old unit. I'll take your recommendations in mind and do dome shopping. Thanks again.

Will
 
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keep us posted on what you decide:thumbsup:
 
   / Air Compressor Advice #16  
In my opinion, the Emglo is just about as good as you are going get. I have two of them. A wheelbarrow one in my shop and a portable one that I take out on jobs.

For $250 from Lowes, it's a pretty good value compared to what else is out there in that price range.

Shop Emglo 1.1-HP 4-Gallon 125-PSI Electric Air Compressor at Lowes.com

Eddie

Two points...

Eddie is spot on the Emglo...
I've had the same unit in the ad for over 27 years and it is very reliable...
Never a minutes bit of trouble with it...

I've had very good luck buying on Craigslist...
Purchases a 30 gal 6 HP unit that was stolen later replaced with a 60 gal 6 HP unit...
My advise is to get an oiled compressor with at least a 30 gal tank...
It will require a 220 volt hook up...
I am not a fan of oil less compressors...
 
   / Air Compressor Advice #17  
Why not try to repair it? It could be as simple as a stuck unloader valve.

Those old compressor are incredibly strong. It could easily go for another 15 years.
Like you said, the new models are crap. Some goes for most other brands, like Ingersoll Rand.
Quincy is still good.

Try your luck here: Reciprocating air compressor troubleshooting problems and repair

Good luck, Pawon
 
   / Air Compressor Advice #18  
If your old Craftsman is a belt drive unit and the only thing wrong is the motor is throwing a breaker, I'd consider a rebuild or repair the best option.


I am also facing the same issue with my previous motor which we are using for industrial purpose, Motor is not performing right with its belt driving unit. So, we prefer to buy new eatoncompressor Motor now its working fine.

fingers crossed :laughing:
 

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