Failed to find check valve now looking for another A. Compressor

[WinterDeere]

Oh I have the pneumatic hammer!
After a few auto projects helping others i said, self, we ain't doing it the hard way again. Ha....

My favorite tool for blasting old failing pointing out of a stone wall, before repointing or repair work, but they have many other uses around house and auto.

They are air hogs, though. No problem for splitting a single ball joint, but if you're going to tackle a large stone wall, you're going to want a bigger compressor!

 

[YLee Kioti]

Heh...mental image of Jaws came to mind...

 

[WinterDeere]

Heh...mental image of Jaws came to mind...

One of the best lines in all of movie history!

 

[YLee Kioti]

OK, so now the selection has been made: Quincy 3.5-HP 60-Gallon (Belt Drive) Single-Stage Air Compressor (230V 1-Phase)
Model: Q13160VQ
Found a service center in New Braunfels. Pump rated for ten thousand hours, meaning my eight month old great-grandson will also get to use it, some day.
Second will add additional 1/2 inch oil/water separator in line with the Merlin regulator filter.

My electrical question: need 10/3 awg from panel, a 35 foot run to end of shop then another 25 feet across and over the roll up door and down 12 feet to a 30 amp plug.
But the compressor will stretch my budget. So currently a electrician to run conduit is not an option. (yeah, I don't bend pipe I just ain't got it)
Considering running 10/3 Romex and using PVC 1/2" clamps to secure cable run.
Another option is to use underground rated cable such as Southwire's copper UF-B cable.
Or an option where I overlooked the obvious.
Ah, found this also: 10/3 Solid Copper Metal Clad Cable With Ground Type MC Aluminum Armored 600V | eBay 10/3 armor cable which gives me a greater comfort factor than the other options I listed. Thoughts?

Thanks for all the input it really did help.

I did look at Puma, MEGA, Campbell Hausfeld, Industrial Air and IR as well.
After maybe 4 to 5 hours of reading reviews, calling and emailing support with questions about future support it came down to the Quincy.

 

[DJ54]

Fortunately, my wiring was already in place from the previous compressor. 10/3 Romex through 3/4" PVC. I can't believe how much all that has gone up in the past 12 years.

 

[WinterDeere]

I'd run Ø3/4" EMT, it ain't that difficult. And there's no need to bend, if you don't want to, they make both inside and outside pull elbows, which can be disassembled to pull the wire thru, then re-assembled around the wiring. Here's the inside corner version, both available at your favorite Lowes Depot.



With that, you can pull simple THHN or THWN, and forget the Romex. Anything else is going to look like a home-boner hack job, and bother you for the rest of your existence, not to mention put off any potential future buyer.

The only even mildly difficult part of this job, if your breaker panel is presently in-wall rather than surface mount, is the wall penetration into the breaker box. Most just hack a hole, I usually try to dress it up with a cover plate or other flange at the wall board penetration.

 

[YLee Kioti]

See, that's why I asked! Yeah 3/4 PVC is what I used to pull CAT6 from house to barn for broadband! I can work with PVC.
But, have not looked hard at 3/4 EMT. My Army electrical instructor back in 77', rolled his eyes and moved me on to the next station. One off set, one saddle bend and about five sticks wasted on more complex off-sets I was the joke of the week. Breaking his budget. So mentally I block EMT out of mind.
Appreciate breaking the mental block.
I will look at both options and lay it out.
And absolutely correct red neck may sound cool, but I can also see a buyer saying, 'oh a fire hazard'.
Good call gents. Now time to get busy. Have an awesome day folks!

 

[YLee Kioti]

Just had a sparky run 220vac to replace a 40 gal. water heater with a tankless and run a 50 amp service for my (so I thought) future welder. (this past July)
That was 2.5k $$$ with Less than 500-600 in material and 2.5 hours later done and I'm spent. Spent on a couple of levels! ha...yep, truly crazy...and....they will get to ya when they 'feel' like it so it seems.
Have spoken with a appliance repair tech and a plumber this week they also have similar anecdotes.
Crazy world nowadays...

 

[WinterDeere]

Be sure you're calculating the guy's material right, wire is expensive, and also accounting for his travel time. But if your $1900/2.5hr = $760/hour claim is right, then yeah... that's awful greedy. I'd guess the going rate on residential work is probably closer to $125/hour these days, but that's only a guess based on older data and inflation.

But a job like this is simple and straightforward enough, it's hard to justify hiring it out. 3/4" EMT, 3 AWG-10 conductors of THHN or THWN, breaker and receptacle rated for your wire type, gauge, and amperage... all of which is likely already spelled out in the novel-sized manual that comes with any stationary equipment, these days.

Yeah, you could do PVC, if you want it to look like hell. It sags, it yellows, it breaks... it is embarassing for anything other than burial, IMO. EMT is just too easy to bother with PVC, in any non-corrosive space.

Oh, and there are swept bends for inside corners as well, if you don't like bending your own or using the pulling elbows. Just use a coupler on either end of the bend to connect the straights, all on the same page:



Oh, and lookie... conduit clamps for fasetening it to the wall are just to the left of that, and the adapters to interface with your panel and receptacle box knockouts are to the right of the page.

 

[YLee Kioti]

Well sir, gotta agree 100%.....The CAT6 cable was pulled in 3/4 PVC and buried.
And thanks for the heads up on the parts. I will chase all that down for this project!