Air compressors?

[JOR_EL]

Bird,

So it sounds like this IS the unit you have?
(Does yours have this same model # on it somewhere?

<font color=blue>34887-1VGA
PUMA 6 HP, 60 GALLON AIR COMPRESSOR[</font color=blue>

Thanks again,

Larry

 

[Bird]

Larry, there are some slight differences, but I don't know exactly what. The picture (if it's accurate) on Harbor Freight's site looks like a blue tank and a white compressor. Mine has a blue tank and black compressor. And their picture looks like the belt guard between the motor and compressor is bigger and more squared off than mine. The 34887-1VGA is just Harbor Freight's "item" or "catalog" number. They list the model number as PK6060V, while mine says model number PP6060V (don't know what the difference would be between the PP and PK models). But overall, I'd say it's got to be about the same compressor.

Bird

 

[JOR_EL]

Hi Bird,

Thanks for coming back again. I just went back to the thread, and saw that you had already pretty explicitly addressed my question. Sorry for re-troubling you.

Larry

 

[jinman]

Thanks for the info, Bird. I still have my portable Sanborn and I used it when I was restoring my Ford Jubilee about 8 years ago. I gave it some pretty heavy use with a little sandblaster I used to do the wheels, fenders, hood, and running gear (the whole thing). I had to rebuild the pressure regulator and and replace the electrical switch when it fried, but other than that, the compressor is still going. I agree that for the gasoline powered portable rigs, the Honda engine is preferred. The dual tank setup also produces a lower profile and that is preferred to the single tank system. It's pretty funny what is called "portable" these days. Just because it has wheels doesn't mean it's any easier to load into the pickup. I wonder if some overzealous marketing type might call my old Mosler safe with wheels "portable"? That used to be a joke in the U.S. Navy in the old days. If they could find a place on anything to bolt a pair of handles, they would sell it to the navy as portable. I can remember hauling a Tektronix 545 O'scope up seven decks (including three Jacob's ladders - straight up-down) to my radar antenna to do normal planned maintenance. Now I know why Popeye had such big forearms./w3tcompact/icons/shocked.gif/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

JimI

 

[TWINKLE_TOES]

Thanks Bird, I was hoping for a fifty dollar answer. /w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif I do think your right. The better blasters I have looked at have the dual filter.

Al

 

[LazyK]

JimI...I've had a small twin-tank, single center wheeled, 120v Emglo w/oil resevoir doing great work in the shop like a fixed-tank. Only real limitation
was when operating high cfm tools like grinders, sanders, saws or ratchets. Finally put in a DiVillbis 60gal w oil-less 120v comp. Bargain price, $300 new, from a tool-poor friend was only reason to compromise. You-all are correct...go oil res., 220/V-twin/only-comes-on-once-a-month 'thumper'.
When this DiVil, oil-less unit touches off in the wee hours, I pass a peach seed backwards!

Lazy K - Chip

 

[jinman]

So it was a <font color=blue>peach seed</font color=blue>, huh? I thought mine was an <font color=green>avocado seed</font color=green> when I forgot and left mine on in the garage and it kicked on in the middle of the night./w3tcompact/icons/shocked.gif Wow! I sat straight up in bed and thought a freight train had just arrived until I realized what it was./w3tcompact/icons/crazy.gif On the positive side, I never forgot to turn it off after that./w3tcompact/icons/cool.gif

Thanks for the info on your emglo. I think if I get a permanent mounted shop type, I'll go with a 60 gal or greater. I also think I will run air along the wall in a 1" pipe and put 3/8" fittings for connection. Airflow at the compressor will quickly drop if you choke the flow with small lines and fittings. I used to work in an aircraft factory and we used air powered vacuums and all air tools in a composites shop. Airflow was a serious problem there.

JimI

 

[LazyK]

JimI...roger, your going 1" source line to 3/8" terminal lines. Went 3/4" in my shop w/ blackpipe then 3/8" plug-ins at 6 meaningful locations inside and 4 outside. Mounted a 50'x3/8" auto-rewind spool on a wheel cart for those long throws outside.(tune up the moles with a hurricane down their holes!)
I mounted a large water separator ahead of the central manifold w/pressure regulator. Detachable in-line oilers and individual inline pressure regulators are used at plug-in locations as needed.
Labor to install the system and $ have been a great investment. Ain't air great ?!

Lazy K - Chip

 

[fractal]

I don't claim to be an expert in any of this, but I was reading http://www.airheads.net/tech/techinfo/airline.html and can't see why anyone would want anything bigger than 1/2 inch or maybe 3/4 inch for the cfm's you can get out of house current compressors. Why do you want to run 1 inch pipe?

Also, when I was at the local engineering shop that said on the phone that it had tractor hydrolic fluid who decided when I got there that they realy didn't, I started chatting to them about air compressor lines. The guy there recommended ... highly recommended .. plastic pipe. He said that even with sloping the airline to run the water off to water traps at the lowest parts of the pipe and water filters at the inlet you will still get water in your airline and black pipe will rust. Not only does it eventually weaken the pipe but more importantly you get bits of rust and crud blowing out the air hose at the least oportune time. You can even tap standard end-caps for air fittings. I haven't done it yet, but 1/2 inch schedule 80 pipe is a lot cheaper than black pipe and just as easy to work.

I have a small deVilBlis 2.5 gallon, 1hp compressor I bought years ago to fill tires and blow some mud on the drywall at the old house. It did an ok job at that but failed miserably when I got a cheapo sand blasting kit here at the new house. Seems that sand blasting doesn't work too good when you can only work with a 20% duty cycle letting the compressor catch up. I was looking at the sears two stage 400 dollar special when my step father decided he wanted one of them and gave me his sears 25 gallon single stage 5.5 hp upright. Jeez is that sucker loud. At least it can keep up with the sand blaster, and the price was right. The only problem is I now want to run power and airline to a shed as far from the work area as possible to get some peace and quiet when I work. Maybe that is why you guys want 1 inch line, to get the 500-1000 ft runs at 18 cfm

If he hadn't given me the machine, I was seriously looking at 220 volt, two stage machines simply for the quiet operation and peace of mind that I wouldn't have to worry about them breaking if I work them hard. The problem was getting an 800 dollar compressor past the cfo when a 300 dollar unit would probably work good enough..