Alternator is Fried on the 1850

   / Alternator is Fried on the 1850 #21  
J_J said:
All that you said is a lot of work. How difficult is it to take the alternator to a place that can check the alternator . If the alternator is bad, it just might fry the new regulator, and compound your problems. Since your machine is a diesel, you probably only need the battery to start it. With no charging source, you might get 4 or 5 starts out of a fully charged battery.
Don't forget the hydraulic cooling fan is part of the running electrical load. I suspect it pulls between 10 and 20 amps on an 1850. I suspect that not keeping that running in any situation where the PTO is used is likely to cause significant problems.
 
   / Alternator is Fried on the 1850 #22  
Bob999 said:
Don't forget the hydraulic cooling fan is part of the running electrical load. I suspect it pulls between 10 and 20 amps on an 1850. I suspect that not keeping that running in any situation where the PTO is used is likely to cause significant problems.

I don't know where altavista is located, but here in Connecticut, I unplug the cooling fan now and won't reconnect it until next spring. I find I don't need to cool the hydraulics in the Winter. I've gone through a couple thermostats, so now I just run the fan constantly in the Summer and unplug it in the Winter.
 
   / Alternator is Fried on the 1850 #23  
RegL said:
I don't know where altavista is located, but here in Connecticut, I unplug the cooling fan now and won't reconnect it until next spring. I find I don't need to cool the hydraulics in the Winter. I've gone through a couple thermostats, so now I just run the fan constantly in the Summer and unplug it in the Winter.
Do you use PTO powered attachments in the winter? My experience is that if I do not use a PTO powered attachment hydraulic fluid temperature is not an issue.
 
   / Alternator is Fried on the 1850 #24  
Bob999 said:
Do you use PTO powered attachments in the winter? My experience is that if I do not use a PTO powered attachment hydraulic fluid temperature is not an issue.

After 20 minutes of hard plowing my cooling fan will come on, even on the coldest of days.
 
   / Alternator is Fried on the 1850 #25  
The fan on the 422 pulls about 5 amps. I don't know about the 1850 of course. It seem to me that you can take an alternator into Advanced Auto Parts and they will test if for you.
 
   / Alternator is Fried on the 1850
  • Thread Starter
#26  
JJ,
I'm not sure if Advance could check this alternbator or not, it might not hook up to their mount. Unfortunately the closest alternator rebuild shop is is in Roanoke, about an hour away.

We used it today, and it did fine, cranked up three times. Tomorrow we will bring a jump box to get it going in the morning.
 
   / Alternator is Fried on the 1850 #27  
AltavistaLawn said:
JJ,
I'm not sure if Advance could check this alternbator or not, it might not hook up to their mount. Unfortunately the closest alternator rebuild shop is is in Roanoke, about an hour away.

We used it today, and it did fine, cranked up three times. Tomorrow we will bring a jump box to get it going in the morning.


Are you south of Roanoke Va.? If you are why don't you call PT and set up a date and time for them to check the problem and get it fixed.You can't be too far from Tazewell Va. Is your machine still under warranty?
 
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Beechwood said:
Are you south of Roanoke Va.? If you are why don't you call PT and set up a date and time for them to check the problem and get it fixed.You can't be too far from Tazewell Va. Is your machine still under warranty?


No I'm east of Roanoke, so Tazewell is about 3 hours away. I think the PT is out of warranty. Deutz won't warrantee anything, they will charge u, then take the old part back, and if they find it defective then they will reimburse you.
 
   / Alternator is Fried on the 1850 #29  
AltavistaLawn said:
No I'm east of Roanoke, so Tazewell is about 3 hours away. I think the PT is out of warranty. Deutz won't warrantee anything, they will charge u, then take the old part back, and if they find it defective then they will reimburse you.


Do you have a maintenance man taking care of your equipment, or do you try and fix every thing yourself?

If you don't get that alternator tested, at a shop, or with a volt meter, which can cost 5 o 10 bucks, you might compound your problems. Those regulators are not cheap.

That alternator could be a one wire alternator, using a built in regulator, or external regulator, or an alternator feeding ac voltage to a rectifier/regulator. You have to know these things to properly diagnose the situation.

A hydraulic gage, and a volt meter are things one should have with a machine like a PT. An amp meter is also useful, and a good volt -amp-ohms meter will check current up to about 10 amps.
 
   / Alternator is Fried on the 1850 #30  
J_J said:
Do you have a maintenance man taking care of your equipment, or do you try and fix every thing yourself?

If you don't get that alternator tested, at a shop, or with a volt meter, which can cost 5 o 10 bucks, you might compound your problems. Those regulators are not cheap.

That alternator could be a one wire alternator, using a built in regulator, or external regulator, or an alternator feeding ac voltage to a rectifier/regulator. You have to know these things to properly diagnose the situation.

A hydraulic gage, and a volt meter are things one should have with a machine like a PT. An amp meter is also useful, and a good volt -amp-ohms meter will check current up to about 10 amps.

I agree with J_J, you need at least a voltmeter to test an electrical system and the knowledge to use it. The other instruments are also good to have. I have been trying to diagnosis this from a distance, but it is not a good idea. The first test with the nose of a burned smell is good indication and points to the alternator. It would be nice to know what caused the alternator to fail. Sometimes they just fail, sometimes there are external causes.
 

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