Tiller Am I crazy? tiller question

[flusher]

I have a Kubota BX2230 and bought a used 48" Shibaura RS 2126 tiller. Are these things geared to spin as if the tiller is pushing you? (front to back) the tines are more like curved blades to a point. When spinning the point enters the ground last. If this is a wrong setup can anything be changed?

Here's the setup for my Kubota B7510HST and the 48" Yanmar RS1200 rototiller.

The tiller rotates clockwise from this angle and will push the tractor forward a little.

I usually plow the ground with my middle buster before using the rototiller. The RS1200 does a good job in one pass with the 7510 creeping along (HST is great for rototilling).

 

[xlr82v2]

I'd venture to guess that at least 90% of all of the rear mounted tillers available are "forward" rotation (just like most small self propelled tillers). There's a few out there that are "reverse" rotation (Landpride has a couple that immediately come to mind) where the tines rotate opposite the direction of travel. But reverse rotation tillers are much more the exception than the norm.

Which is better? Can't really say, I've never used a reverse rotation tiller... but the fact that the vast majority are forward rotation, should say something. Lately it seems that there are more reverse drive tillers becoming available, but I'm not sure that it isn't as much of a marketing scheme as it is anything else. I'm sure that it isn't that they just now thought of making reverse rotation, I'm sure it was tried and tested also back when they first started making rototillers way back "in the day". I'm quite confident that if reverse was the way to go, then most would be turning backwards today. Our forefathers were pretty sharp cookies.

 

[Highbeam]

So if a guy had a tiller with tines that pushed a huge pile of dirt between the tractor and the tiller wouldn't he risk getting stuck there?

The grey market tillers have the strange rice paddy tines that are more like fan blades. They might not be worn out.

I have used a landpride tiller of 60" with my Kioti 30HP tractor and found it to be a dreamy experience in low range of the HST tranny. Sit there, sip your beverage and till for hours on end. The fields look beautiful.

 

[kcarver141]

I guess I'm not crazy! it appears the tiller pushes. I was sure it would till against the forward motion of the tractor, just like a rear tine walkbehind. As for the tines they are blade type. I would like to get the conventional L type but cant seem to find them anywhere.

 

[Pooh_Bear]

In "normal" soil, a tiller doesn't have enough "push" to push the tractor forward. In very hard soil where the tiller could grab hard enough to push the tractor, you'd have to know that the "grab" was coming so that you could apply the brakes at just the right time to only push the tractor forward just a couple of inches, instead of the few feet that you might get.

That was what I was thinking.

I used a bottom plow and a disk harrow last year to work the garden.
Had to plow up a spot twice as big as what we actually used.
Sure would be nice to be able to use a tiller on the tractor (8N).
Oh well, I got an excuse to justify another tractor :0)

Pooh Bear

 

[wushaw]

I just tilled my garden the other day with my Mitsubishi 372 14 pto hp and a 42" Agric tiller. I have clay on one side with sandy loam on the other side, I stalled the tiller several times trying to till to deep and it never pushed me along, the tines would just quit rotating, the slip clutch apparantly doing its job.
I had to make three passes to get to the desired depth I was looking for.

 

[Jimmyp5]

I had to make three passes to get to the desired depth I was looking for.

You know three passes is not a bad thing if your looking for a good till on new ground. I found that I run a little fast on the first pass and then settle down for the next few where it really turns and breaks up the soil well.

That cup holder comes in handy on tilling days...