Another 3pt Logsplitter question

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IXLR8

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Does anybody have any experiance with these 3pt Logsplitters? I do find it a bit of a stretch to call them "the toughest splitter on the market".

Ramsplitter Log Splitter Model 3PT Attachment, the Toughest Log Splitter on the Market

I have read many of the logsplitter posts and don't remember seeing any posting about this brand. I was hoping that a 3pt would be cheaper than an indendant unit, but it is not looking that way. I only need to split 2 cord a year, so I was looking for the best value I could find. Any thoughts and inputs would be appreciated.
 
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IXLR8 said:
Does anybody have any experiance with these 3pt Logsplitters? I do find it a bit of a stretch to call them "the toughest splitter on the market".

Ramsplitter Log Splitter Model 3PT Attachment, the Toughest Log Splitter on the Market

I have read many of the logsplitter posts and don't remember seeing any posting about this brand. I was hoping that a 3pt would be cheaper than an indendant unit, but it is not looking that way. I only need to split 2 cord a year, so I was looking for the best value I could find. Any thoughts and inputs would be appreciated.

I have one of the cheap little electric splitters that I run a lot more than 2 cord a year through. This will be its 5th season coming up, and I've split about 5 cord a year with it. I keep thinking it will die and I can get a bigger one to use on the tractor, but the darn little thing just keeps on going. Really big chunks (24" or better) I have to sometimes make the first split by hand...depending on species of wood and moisture. Other than that, no complaints. I like not having to work with a motor running, too.
 
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IXLR8 said:
I was looking for the best value
Well - for two cords a year, I don't know why you're looking at that one. I split more than two cords with a 3 point Huskee I got from Tractor Supply for under $600 (not including hoses/connectors). Other than table legs that needed a bit of extra bracing, I've got no complaints at all.

//greg//
 
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I've got a Wallenstien 3-point splitter. It works well with my 150 Massey,s relatively low flowing hydraulics just fine thank you! (4.6 gpm) Some people will complain they're a little slow cycling compared to a higher capacity pumping tractor OR a high capacity self contained unit. My reply to that? During the course of a long day of wood splitting, it's faster than I am 3 or 4 hours into the job. There are times I'd rather have a self contained unit. But considering I use this thing 2 or 3 days a year, what's the difference? $750 to $900.... That's the difference. In the end, it beats the dickens out of an axe and a maul.
 
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greg_g said:
Well - for two cords a year, I don't know why you're looking at that one. I split more than two cords with a 3 point Huskee I got from Tractor Supply for under $600 (not including hoses/connectors). Other than table legs that needed a bit of extra bracing, I've got no complaints at all.

//greg//
I didn't look at one from TSC because my nearest Tractor Supply is almost 2 hrs away and I couldn't find any 3pt units on their web page.
 
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Farmwithjunk said:
I've got a Wallenstien 3-point splitter.
FWJ- What model do you have? What sort of pricing are you talking? How long ago?
 
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IXLR8 said:
FWJ- What model do you have? What sort of pricing are you talking? How long ago?

I'll have to go look at the splitter to see what model # it is. (That OLD thing...)

I bought it second hand at an estate auction. No clue as to retail price. (I paid $330) I've had it 4 years.
 
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I was given a huge old home-made 3pth unit designed for my bro's 60hp Ford. Had a leaky 4" cylinder and would split anything if you had the patience to wait.(I run my little 4300 about 1200rpm while splitting)
I wound up chaining the unit to the side of my woodshed and installing a 2.5" cylinder. Just back up to it and hook up the hoses. Now it splits ALMOST anything and is a lot faster.
If I were doing it again I'd find a used splitter with a worn out motor and make my own from the leftover pieces.
 
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I purchased the Ramsplitter for my BX-24 and used it for the first time this past monday. Was well pleased. I did the cutting and the wife did the splitting. It split everything we fed it. Could it be a little faster - sure. But we are getting older and it was plenty fast enough for us. :)
 
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I've had good success with a new one bought off Ebay for $350, probably Chinese, as hydraulics are so simple it really doesn't matter much. Replaced all the bolts on the ram carrier with Grade 8 and have had no problems since the first day
 
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I've got a 16 ton Ramsplitter Horizontal/verticle electric model. I was looking for electric, since I do all my splitting right up near the house, and didn't need the portability of gas (or yet another gas engine to take care of). I ended up with teh 16 ton unit, since that was the biggest I could get that still ran on 110 VAC (the bigger electric units need 220). I rarely use it in vertical mode.. I knew I wouldn't, but I liked the height of the H/V models. Not as much bending over, so my back holds up a lot better (a pair of small handheld logging tongs really helps avoid all the bending when picking up the rounds as well).

For the most part, it's a decently built unit, with a decent cycle time. Hydraulic controls do have the detent for auto-return. A couple of complaints:

(1) With the horiz/vert models, the wedge moves, and pushes the log against a stationary flat plate. The weld where the wedge meets the carriage/slide on which it rides made a huge, round "knob". Since this joint is on top of the slide, it sits a good inch up from the bottom of the log when splitting, making it harder for the log to ride up over it. This robbed the splitter of a lot of power. A few minutes with a grinder took care of reshaping that, but it's something the factory should pay more attention to. (On a horizontal-only model, where the wedge is fixed in position, it probably would not be as much of an issue, since this lump or knob would be right at the outer edge of the log when splitting)

(2) The carriage on which the splitting wedge rides is held together with hex-head bolts. The carriage itself has a nice tapered edge to help the log ride up and over it's base. Unfortunately, the hex heads stick up and catch the bottom of any log over about 8" in diameter (smaller ones pass between the bolt heads). This robs a tremendous amount of splitting power. It would have been much better to use countersunk bolts... probably allen head drive, flat head (not sure what they are called). When I get around to it, I'm going to remove the carriage and have it drilled with a chamfered countersink to match the bevelled underside of the bolts I intend to replace the hex-heads with.

(3) While you can stop the motion of the ram with the hydraulic controls, there is no On/Off switch for the electric motor. You have to shut that off by unplugging. This does cause some arcing in the plug. I'd like to see a nice, protected, weatherproof switch on the unit (OK, a relatively minor gripe... I can always replace the male plug end on the splitter, and the female plug on the end of my extension cord when they've arc'd enough to cause a problem.)

It's holding up OK so far, though I've only split about 5 cords with it. I was worried at first because the two-stage hydraulic pump seemed to be "stuck in high gear". It would stall the ram under even some fairly light loads (causing me to wonder if they had cheaped-out and used a single stage pump). It started working normally by the time I'd run my first 1/3 cord or so through it.

My summary: If looking for an electric splitter, I'd buy this one again. It's much more capable and solidly built than the light-duty 3 to 5 ton models that seemed to be the only other electric models I could find. If I were going for stand-alone gas, I think I could find better deals and/or better built by shopping for other brands. I did not shop around for 3 point hitch models, so I can't compare them

John Mc
 
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I got mine from Northern. They were on sale last year for $400. Pretty basic and works fine for me.
NorthStar 3-Point Horizontal Log Splitter | Log Splitters | Northern Tool + Equipment

Agri Supply seems to have the same model. I think I saw it in their catalog for about $450. The online price includes shipping.

14-TON LOG SPLITTER - Agri Supply

If I was spending more than $1000, I would go for a gas powered unit. They are faster and more versatile. Of course fewer prospective borrowers with a 3ph model if that is a concern.
 
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It's now up to $530 for the Northstar, and $570 for the Agri-supply unit. Not surprising, given what's been happening to the price of steel lately.

Brad, I'm curious how you've found the splitting power of your unit. I've got a 16-ton, which I've been happy with, once I got it broken in and addressed some of the points I referred to earlier. The occasional large elm, or a knotty piece of some random hardwood will slow me down a bit, but on the whole, I've found no need for more power. If I was a commercial user, or splitting a whole lot more than I do now (3-5 cords/year) I'd probably go bigger, but those 25 or 30+ ton units out there would just be overkill for me.

John Mc
 
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I have the 16 TON Ramsplitter. It has a smaller Diameter cylinder to help with speed on the lower hydraulic flow rates of the CUTs. I fed it a steady diet of Maple, Oak and Locust and it worked fine for me.
Bought it new off Ebay with no problems.
The only problem was a small leak on the valve. Not enough to cause a problem but annoying enough that I will probably take the valve apart and find the bad seal before the next wood cutting season. Shoulda called while it was still in warranty. Oh well.

I also made some modifications to the frame to make it compatible with my Quick Hitch.
I can get pics if anybody else has one and wants to use it with the QH.
 
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Not to hijack this thread, but since we are on this subject.....
I bought a shop made (very well built) 3 point splitter. I have only used it on my Kubota B21. I works well on logs up to 10"-12", after that its a no go. My buddy has a trailer splitter (briggs 5hp.)with the same size hyd. cylinder that will split anything you can shove in it. I thought the tractor hyd.gpm flow only affected cycle time (my splitter cycles fast enough for me), but if I hooked this same splitter up to a larger tractor would it split bigger wood?
I know....." why don't you try it and see" I'm at work and just thought the TBN think tank would have an easy answer.
Thanks, Jack
 
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capt jack said:
I bought a shop made (very well built) 3 point splitter. I have only used it on my Kubota B21. I works well on logs up to 10"-12", after that its a no go. My buddy has a trailer splitter (briggs 5hp.)with the same size hyd. cylinder that will split anything you can shove in it. I thought the tractor hyd.gpm flow only affected cycle time
8.5 gpm and 2000 psi on a B21 should be plenty, so I don't think the problem is with the tractor. The type run by the little gasoline motors actually aren't that stout. What they have that your home made splitter probably doesn't is the two stage pump. The advertised 11gpm is in the first stage, and is really only good for light stuff and fast cycle times. All those tons of splitting pressure they advertise don't actually happen until the second stage of the pump kicks in. When the pump detects more resistance, the second stage kicks in. Pressure rises, flow slows down. Less speed, but more power.

Even though it's a single stage, your B21 pump should have had enough power to split the big stuff. It runs a loader and back hoe for goodness sake. I'm guessing that either there is something wrong with the Kubota remotes, or with the splitter itself. Like you said, try another tractor. That'll narrow it right down.

//greg//
 
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John_Mc said:
It's now up to $530 for the Northstar, and $570 for the Agri-supply unit. Not surprising, given what's been happening to the price of steel lately.

Brad, I'm curious how you've found the splitting power of your unit. I've got a 16-ton, which I've been happy with, once I got it broken in and addressed some of the points I referred to earlier. The occasional large elm, or a knotty piece of some random hardwood will slow me down a bit, but on the whole, I've found no need for more power. If I was a commercial user, or splitting a whole lot more than I do now (3-5 cords/year) I'd probably go bigger, but those 25 or 30+ ton units out there would just be overkill for me.

John Mc

I think the list price went up $30 on the Northstar. The sale last year was $100 off and I couldn't pass it up. The $449.95 price at Agri Supply is from the February buyer's guide and I am assuming the difference is the shipping cost. I applaud them for including shipping on their online price.

Mine has yet to invoke the the relief valve on my tractor for anything other than reaching the end of the stroke. I've split some cherry bottoms around 18" that were so crooked that it was pretty much cutting against the grain the whole time and it popped and creaked but didn't slow down. I have a short video of me splitting a piece of hickory.
 
 

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