Another BX Chain Hook Option

[Leejohn]

Good ideal and real nice

 

[jimmer2880]

Ihat's the way I do it.

I hook up the rear chain, pull tight. Then, I put chain with binders on the front corners. Then, I add a bungie on the rear chain to keep the chain hooks from falling off, just in case the chain ever gets some slack. After all of that, I drop the rear attachment on top of the rear chains.

 

[some zilch]

The other day I had to really get on the brakes while towing the BX. Afterwards I decided I'll always use chain only on the back and then use the binders at the front of the trailer. My thinking being that when braking hard, it's better to have all that load being applied to just chain instead of a chain and binder combination.I had the BX24 connected on all four corners with 5/16" G70 and I didn't have a problem with any load shift when I made that hard stop, but it just made me think about the forces occuring back on the trailer and that most likely point of failure would be a binder, not the chain. I just didn't like the vision of that BX coming over the front of the trailer.

a chain by itself is not a "legal" load securing device, if there is no method of tightening it. believe it or not, your little bitty BX24 is not going to break a chain binder. its not going to break a 2"ratchet strap. people put tractors that size in pickup beds. that has to be one of the dumbest things i have read in a long time. chain binders seem to hold up just fine, day in and day out, holding monsterous machinery to semi-trucks, and somehow manage to not break when the truck has to panic stop. ive stopped HARD several times, and yet to see a binder break. i haul loads 60 times heavier than your lawn mower, and have never broke a chain or binder. please secure your load properly, and not try to reinvent load securement. 10-4, heavy hauler??

 

[OlderToday]

... and not try to reinvent load securement. 10-4, heavy hauler??

I guess I don't understand how moving the binders to the front chains is reinventing load securment. My point was that in the future, I'll RELOCATE the binders to the front, as jimmer2880 describes in his post.

Yeah, I know it's a tiny load compared to what the big boys haul and I'm pretty sure those binders will never fail, but for some reason my little brain just wants those binders up front...

 

[Gary Fowler]

I would say that you are well within the safe range on any of that, Gr 70 x 5/16 chain is safe rated for over 4700 pounds and if you use good binders of the same size with a 4 point attachment, you could run it off a 500 foot cliff and it will still be attached.
Put your binders where they are easiest to get on and off. You dont want to be in front of one when it finally breaks over and releases. Lots of folks have found that out the hard way.

 

[tungularafishcamp]

I would say that you are well within the safe range on any of that, Gr 70 x 5/16 chain is safe rated for over 4700 pounds and if you use good binders of the same size with a 4 point attachment, you could run it off a 500 foot cliff and it will still be attached.
Put your binders where they are easiest to get on and off. You dont want to be in front of one when it finally breaks over and releases. Lots of folks have found that out the hard way.

That's y we call them boomers:laughing:
It was always fun watching a new crewman loosening them on the pot stack. Always got them very tight with a cheater, dont want the stack shifting especially in bad weather, anyway usually as they opened it was at least once a new crewman would launch the cheater as it opened:laughing:
Rick

 

[Don87]

a chain by itself is not a "legal" load securing device, if there is no method of tightening it. believe it or not, your little bitty BX24 is not going to break a chain binder. its not going to break a 2"ratchet strap. people put tractors that size in pickup beds. that has to be one of the dumbest things i have read in a long time. chain binders seem to hold up just fine, day in and day out, holding monsterous machinery to semi-trucks, and somehow manage to not break when the truck has to panic stop. ive stopped HARD several times, and yet to see a binder break. i haul loads 60 times heavier than your lawn mower, and have never broke a chain or binder. please secure your load properly, and not try to reinvent load securement. 10-4, heavy hauler??

A little harsh weren't we?


I've got ten years driving in myself, but wouldn't talk that way to anyone.

As far as binders versus chains, binders are stronger. I prefer 'ratchet' binders myself. Much safer for the person operating them.
While 2 inch straps may hold the tractor, I personally don't like to use them.
I've seen guys haul 40,000 lb steel coils with just straps, some make delivery........some don't(nothing like having a coil cut through a nylon strap).
I've also seen panic stops with straps as securement, gotta love how nylon has a tendency to stretch.
7 year steel hauler.

 

[CompactTractorFan]

Here's a little rainy day fabrication project I finally got done, something planned shortly after I bought my BX24 in March of 2008. I've only had a few occasions to transport the tractor locally, but never found a really good way to chain down the front end to the trailer (the back was no problem since I just hooked onto the hitch bracket). When I had the need to transport the BX24 on a 300+ mile trip, I finally got these built. The hook base plates use the two existing bonnet support frame bolts supplemented by two additional grade 8 bolts. Beware: the nut for the rear most bolt and the motor mount end up about 1/2" apart when completed. Also, the bonnet support frame must be supported and/or clamped when the base plate is mounted to the frame.

Nice!!! :thumbsup:

 

[jimmer2880]

Since we are on the subject, and some may not have thought of it.

Whenever I hook a chain (or, anything for that matter), I drop the chain through the pocket (on my BX, its through the front frame), then back up, and drop the chain hook over the metal. Doing this, ensure that if, for any reason slack got in the chain, the hook would never come off.

If you look at the big truck drivers, they all do the same thing (that's where I stole the idea from).

 

[puckgrinder85]

I guess I don't understand how moving the binders to the front chains is reinventing load securment. My point was that in the future, I'll RELOCATE the binders to the front, as jimmer2880 describes in his post.

Yeah, I know it's a tiny load compared to what the big boys haul and I'm pretty sure those binders will never fail, but for some reason my little brain just wants those binders up front...

I agree with having the chains in the rear only, i feel the same way as the most force i can impart is going to be stopping suddenly. You're not wrong in your thinking, the binder may be strong enough but a securement is only good as the weakest link anyhow. Using a grab hook on a chain or in this case, a binder is the weak point, or going around edges and such. The chain by itself is surely legal, and is the the most effective (in way of strength) that chain will have. Grab hooks and the like all decrease its strength, its been tested for heavy duty recovery situations (large wreckers) on a pull table that can impart enormous loads. The ones that held up the best were indeed straight chain attachments, no bends, no sling hooks or grab hooks. etc. That and running a chain anything under than i think it was 3" diameter really took a toll on chain strength as well. Granted these chains have a large safety margin built into them, at least 3:1..