Any experience with Kubota Top n Tilt on Grand L40?

[hayden]

I'm close to getting the factory Top N Tilt on a Grand L40. Anyone have one of these and how does it work? I'm particularly interested in knowing whether the Tilt cylinder can be easily removed and the fixed link replaced? It looks to me like the links are bolted on, not pinned, and that swapping between a fixed link and tilt cylinder might be a bit of a project.

Thanks for any insight,

Peter

 

[weiser]

Peter,

I have the top-n-tilt, and really like it. I was planning on getting rear remote(s) anyway, so it wasnt' all "that much" more - but it did cost money. I decided to get it based on some comments I found on an AWESOME website I found called "tractorbynet."

My dealer happened to have a used kit (off another tractor) so I got a bit of a discount on the cylinders themselves.

I like it - and recommend it. This is my first tractor, so I don't have much comparative data as to how often/how much trouble it would be otherwise. I am using the feature with a box blade, and grader blade, and I find it very helpful. It also helps when changing implements, as you can adjust the connection points while attaching.

My top cylinder is connected with pins - not bolts, and the tilt cylinder is bolted on the top, and pinned on the bottom. Hydraulic lines disconnect at the remote panel, so removing them shouldn't be too much trouble - but I've not done that yet. I asked the dealer for the original links (that came with the tractor) just in case I take the cylinder set off at some point - don't know if I ever will.

I should add here that my system isn't working perfectly: the cylinders move quickly in on direction, and VERY slowly in the other. But even with that, I am glad I have the feature. I will attempt to fix the problem eventually, but for now (because it works) I have been living with it.

I'm not sure if your question "how does it work" is asking for operational details or just "how do you like it" - so (based on the length of this response so far) I leave it at: I love it - it's great!

If you want further details, simply clarify, and I'll augment...

 

[hayden]

Thanks. I've got a top N tilt on my B2910 that I made myself, so I'm already sold on the functionality. Most TnTs are aftermarket, and I've never seen one of the Kubota outfits. That's mostly why I'm asking.

The thing that is important to me is to be able to quickly switch back and forth between the tilt cylinder and the fixed side link. I've found that I love the tilt cylinder on box blades and grader blades, but I hate it on most other implements because it slowly leaks down and I find myself constantly adjusting trying to keep an implement like a mower level. I now leave the fixed link on and only use the side cylinder for the select implements that need it. The top of the L40 side link bolts on, and if I have to unbolt the fixed link and bolt on the cylinder to change, that will be a pain.

I stopped by the dealer today and he told me two things. First, is that the Kubota TnT is made by Gannon, and they are probably the most popular aftermarket kit. He also said that the side link is pinned on so it's an easy swap. I hope he's right. We'll see when I get it.

 

[Racer71]

How is the TnT going?

 

[Gator6x4]

The Gannon hydraulic cylinders sold by Kubota in their TNT installations will leak down as you stated you found with your 2910. The hydraulic cylinders with the Pilot Valves do not have this problem. Carter & Carter Machinery sells the top and side links. I included their Web site give them a call and obtain pricing. An option is to have your dealer install the valves and purchase the cylinders for C&C. Just my thoughts. I have tried both the Gannon cylinders and the cylinders with the pilot valves. No more cylinders without the pilot valves in a TNT installation for me. To much work and aggravations keeping implements adjusted.


Tractor Hydraulic toplink, Top-N-Tilt, Side link

 

[ringo5]

I am also searching for a TNT kit for a Grand L40 and came across this thread when searching. The post above is what I am most interested in. I know this is an older thread but the website referenced looks to be no longer valid. Any current info on these Carter & Carter Machinery cylinders or something equal? I want to stay OEM Kubota on the controls so this looks like the best route to take as I don't want cylinders that leak down. Can you buy the OEM Kubota TNT kit with everything except the cylinders?

 

[C4Ranch]

The OEM TNT are mostly just the cylinders and attachment points. When I inquired, the dealership also told me they don't come with the hoses, they have to be made. Which is why I went fit right.

Not sure what else you would expect to be included. The controls are from your remotes, not the TNT.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

I am also searching for a TNT kit for a Grand L40 and came across this thread when searching. The post above is what I am most interested in. I know this is an older thread but the website referenced looks to be no longer valid. Any current info on these Carter & Carter Machinery cylinders or something equal? I want to stay OEM Kubota on the controls so this looks like the best route to take as I don't want cylinders that leak down. Can you buy the OEM Kubota TNT kit with everything except the cylinders?

If you feel that you need-want the cylinders with the DPOCVs, then you need to talk to Hay Tools. Good luck. If not and you want to get the most out of your system, then you can contact me.

 

[ringo5]

The OEM TNT are mostly just the cylinders and attachment points. When I inquired, the dealership also told me they don't come with the hoses, they have to be made. Which is why I went fit right.

Not sure what else you would expect to be included. The controls are from your remotes, not the TNT.

Guess that was one of the things I did not understand. I thought it was all one kit. So I can just get the OEM three valve rear remote kit and it will come with the controls that go into the available slots on the factory control station next to the fender and then just get the better cylinders from elsewhere? I am wanting a clean installation so it looks like it belongs and not a bulky control station bolted somewhere with levers sticking up from a big valve block.

 

[ringo5]

If you feel that you need-want the cylinders with the DPOCVs, then you need to talk to Hay Tools. Good luck. If not and you want to get the most out of your system, then you can contact me.

Well absolutely I want to get the "most" from my system.... :cool2: Do tell.

What do I want? Help me out. I am afraid I am new to the owning tractor and outfitting it correctly thing so I am learning. I have just jumped on borrowed tractors in the past and started chopping, discing and seeding with whatever equipment was on hand. I am using this tractor to do food plots, about 18 that are 1/2-1/4 acre in size and maintain trails on 300 acres in pretty hilly country. I am also getting a dual cylinder grapple bucket for the front to help clear trails and move brush, limbs and trees so I need a set of front remotes with controls. I just want a clean install that looks like it belongs there which is why I was looking at OEM. I also don't want to deal with leaking down as I do not want to have to remove this system for other chores. I would like to put this TNT on and it just stay there whether I am doing trail clearing/leveling or bush hogging or discing and not have to fight a system that leaks down and I am having to readjust to keep things level and working properly for the task at hand. That will just slow the whole process down and give me the red arse, especially if I paid to have the system added on.