Any Final Thoughts

/ Any Final Thoughts #21  
Excellent points Ryan, it all depends. In one of my posts I recommended a 5030 to a guy with 4 acres because of what he said he ws going to be doing. It all depends. Soooo much goes into this tractoring thing, I guess that's why we're all here /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

And hey, did I tell you "nice call" on the 3830? Oh yeah, I did, like 3 times already /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
/ Any Final Thoughts #22  
rk246

Point well said on land size. At one time, I owned 17 acres in Idaho. None of the CUTS discussed would be large enough for this place.

It was a 400 cow dairy farm and we moved 2000 lb large square bales of hay and had to fill up a feed mixer truck among other tasks. We used mostly industrial equipment for this 17 acres. If I posted that I had 17 acres and need a loader most would say a L3830 or something like that without digging deeper into what the machine would be used for. The the point on land size would not make sense for this 17 acres.

Another person might have 200 acres of woods and only wants to maintain some trails through this. A small compact tractor might make much better sense for this situation.
 
/ Any Final Thoughts #23  
yeah, I am still just waiting for the dealer to bring it to me, they had to go pick it up from another dealer that it had just been invoiced to, set it up with the tires, get the loader on etc.. I feel bad because I have put a few more hours on this 3130 they brought out for me to try, but it already had 26 hours on it anyway...I am curious to see how much improvement I will see with the 3830....
 
/ Any Final Thoughts #24  
<font color="blue">I feel bad because I have put a few more hours on this 3130 they brought out for me to try </font> Don't! /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

<font color="blue"> I am curious to see how much improvement I will see with the 3830.... </font> A LOT! Looking forward to your review. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
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#25  
I have some additional quotes for the bigger tractors:

L3400HST - $16,350
L3130 - $18,750
L3430 - $19,500

After getting some info from Kubota and some other reading including this thread Front End Loaders Dangerous http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/.../742570/page/0/view/collapsed/sb/5/o//fpart/1 I think I'm going to go ahead and get a box scraper now for additional ballast. So that has me making my tractor choices the following:

B7800 - $14,650
B2630 - $15,250
L3400HST - $16,350
B3030 - $16,550

With one of these I can keep the total cost below $20k once I add the tax and box scraper. I know the others are just "a little more", but I have to draw the line somewhere. This is still $5k more than I originally intended. Plus I'm still going to be getting a trailer.

Darrell
 
/ Any Final Thoughts #26  
Darrell -

As others have said or implied, try to concentrate on getting the "right" tractor first and deal with the implements later. I still advise you to get at least the 3430, and wouldn't be sad to see you get the 3830. I'll read that thread, but it just sounds like the tail is wagging the dog a little bit. Are you loading the rear tires? As I've said, I try to avoid that, but with loaded tires I don't see you getting killed by your loader without a box blade on the back. Take smaller bites with the loader until you can get a box blade, or hang a block of cement back there as others have mentioned.

Lastly, please do not get a 3130. (or a B3030, or B2630, or an L3400, or a B7800). /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

And my offer of the loan still stands. Speaking of which, if it's not too personal, are you going through Kubota for the financing? If not, have you completely ruled out the "playing the field" thing with a "pre-owned" tractor? I'm still thinking about that L3430HSTC with the toasty cab for the winter, or any other good used tractor you could try out to see how you like it.
 
/ Any Final Thoughts #27  
I think any of the smaller tractors would do you well. I did not see why you would need a 3830. From what it sounded like from your first post you might be using around your suburbon home as well. If so then I would believe he 2630 or 3030 would be ideal for you. I can't see your property from my computer, but it sounds like you have roughly 15 acres to take care of that is moslty wooded. Maybe has some pasture not sure. You will not be making a living from this tractor and using it mostly on the weekends. Sure a 3830 will be more productive, but you could buy quite a bit of implements for that 6k difference that would also make you more productive with a smaller machine (think backhoe or snowblower etc.)

I could be wrong and you get a 2630/3030 and really be disapointed in it's capabilty, but my guess is that it would suit you very well.
 
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#28  
aesanders, I think you've hit it.

ct tree guy, I know your intentions are good, but the quotes from the dealer were enough for me to eliminate all of the grand Ls. You can't say I didn't at least check on them though. The L3400HST is the biggest I'm going to go.

With that being said let's make this a B7800 vs. B3030 vs. L3400HST battle.

Darrell
 
/ Any Final Thoughts #29  
***** Posted prior to seeing previous post *******

Hi Aaron, thanks for your kind words in the "Remotes for top and tilt" thread.

I was under the assumption that use of the tractor around the home is kind of a non-issue.

<font color="blue"> This brings us to the heart of the matter. What are you REALLY going to be using this tractor for? Around the house? Let's see:

but I could see some of my neighbors that are friends (or not) wanting me to do stuff for them Yeah, I can see that too. Not a pretty picture, is it?

shrubs to rip up, moving bulk mulch, moving gravel to underneath the deck OK, that'll take about an hour ...

snow removal Have you considered a Toro snowthrower? How much snow do you really get in the D.C. area? </font>

And these threads pretty much sum up why I'm recommending the 3830/3430.

3130 vs. 3430

Pricing L3130 w/513 loader
 
/ Any Final Thoughts #30  
The L3400HST gives you 27.5 PTO HP vs. 23 for the B3030, etc. That's a big difference in PTO power. You didn't mention how much mowing you will do, but more PTO power will let you mow faster without getting bogged down. I would also get an L3830 if you can afford it, but If not, I would get the most HP I could in the tractors I could afford. You will never regret having the extra HP and there will come at time, as there has for all of us, that you will wish you had a little more HP.
 
/ Any Final Thoughts #31  
Darrell -

Sorry, I made that last post before I read yours. Having said all I really have to say anyway, I'll try to stay out of it now, in accordance with your wishes. Enjoy your tractor, whatever you end up with.

John
 
/ Any Final Thoughts #32  
I vote for the 7800. I guess I'm a little biased, but I'm not that far down the road from you and my 7800 has served me well on my 6.5 acres. Although I don't have as many trees as I would like to have, the ones I do have can make things tough navigating a tractor around them on those wonder WV hills. I was doing some work the other day and I couldn't have gotten a larger L series back in there to where I had my B-7800.
As far as the extra weight of the machines, in the 2 years I have had my 7800, I've only had it stuck 1 time where I had to pull it out with a truck and that was my own stupidity. I dug a hole about 6 foot deep with my FEL and went down in there without any weight on the back and couldn't get back out because the clay was like ice. I couldn't even curl my way out with the fel.
I have added a boxblade, PHD, lakescape rake, tiller, rotary cutter, forks, and carry all. All of those implements have served me well on my property.
I would have loved to have gotten a backhoe but couldn't justify the cost. I would rather either rent something or have a professional do the larger jobs.
If you don't mind me asking, what dealers are you talking to? You can PM me the answer if you like. Just curious as I am from close by.
 
/ Any Final Thoughts #33  
I'd vote for the L3400. Biased - no doubt about it :).

If the B3030, L3400 is the last you can squeeze into your budget, I'd vote for more PTO HP/ larger machine over the creature comforts offerred by the B3030.

If you were mowing primarily, the B3030/B7800 would be the way to go. From what you have listed you want to do, I don't think you will regret the extra hp and weight.

Resale value wise I suspect that the L3400 will sell for more than the B3030 15 years from now - even though they cost the same now. Others may disagree. I know that when I was looking for used, all I looked at was PTO HP first, transmission second and creature comforts (better seats, telescoping 3PT) were never really on the list.

You can always add some creature comforts in time - quick hitch for example.

Size matters :). You won't be able to change that after you buy.

I'm sure you will be happy whichever way you go. All three are really nice machines.
 
/ Any Final Thoughts #34  
Dlroy, Wow! You must feel like a yo-yo with all of the advice given so far. Bigger, no smaller, no bigger, no smaller ... ; it really makes me shake my head. I didn't read any of your post in Down to Orange, but one of the posters here reiterated what your intended uses might be. So from that I'd say that a tractor as simple and compact as the L3400 would do great!

Have you ever seen a tiny little Farmall? They once made a tractor called the Cub. About 11 or so hp on the pto and weighed in at around 1600 lbs. Once upon a time, my dad ran 125-acre farm with one of these. That was row cropping, cattle, hogs; it did it all. Now it probably took a little time to complete all of the chores. This was long before my time, but as my dad often said, it was far better than any mule he ever worked.

You asked if a smaller tractor would get the job done, once you are settled in. Sure it will. It will do the big jobs too, just not as fast. That is the ONLY difference.

Here is another story that illustrates just how strong these small CUT's are. A couple of years ago my brother purchased a New Holland TC33, cute little tractor. Kind of like the L3400, they are about the same weight and hp, though the TC is on a more compact frame. This TC33 I'm referring too was not the fancied up one, as they have now become. It doesn't have synchronized gears or an independent pto. It is a simple, small, CUT, yet very powerful, as I was to discover.

So I had it out in a 10-acre field. Imagine that! A tractor this small on 10 acres and that's not to mention the 20 or so acres sitting beside this field that it often bushhogs. I hitched this little guy to a 2500 lb duel axle spreader loaded with 3000 lbs of fertilizer. And then I pulled this 5500 lb sled through a powder soft, plowed field. Sure, I had all 4 tires engaged, but it pulled it with hesitation. I was simply amazed. This, even considering that it had R4's instead of Ag tires. It actually handled this load up the slight slopes far better than a Ford 2000 we also have. Now the Ford 2000 is slightly over 1000lbs heavier, but its Achilles hill was that it is only 2wd. This little tractor, that looked only half its size, spanked its butt.

So do I think a smaller tractor will do you. You bet. If you are not paying someone to operate your machine, and you have time to devote to your projects, buy the tractor that fits your budget. It WILL get the job done. Of those you mentioned I favor the l3400. Weight and power combination on this tractor is perfect. Plus, it is just a little more than those a bit smaller and actually less expensive than those cute little fancied up ones.

Can't wait to hear what you go with. Hope this helps some.
 
/ Any Final Thoughts #35  
I'm with most other guys here from the choices listed I would go with the L3400 HST. I have two 6 acre tracts one with the house the other for our future home. I have a B-7500 and while most of my seat time is mowing the machine does a great job. However if I had it to do over again I would have bought a bigger more HP tractor. With your task at hand the bigger weight of the L will serve you well.

I know you will not be disappointed in the L-3400 or any of the others you have listed, but take it from me most will wish for something bigger in the future, but I also understand the budget concerns, money does not grow on trees in my neck of the woods. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Keep us posted. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
/ Any Final Thoughts #36  
I have been going through the same thing, tractor size, hp etc, my dealer advised me on the bigger L frame tractor because of the hills on my property, he felt it would be much more stable than the smaller ones. He also recommended the L for resale, feeling that it would be better in the long run....
 
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#37  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Wow! You must feel like a yo-yo with all of the advice given so far. Bigger, no smaller, no bigger, no smaller ... ; it really makes me shake my head. )</font>

Yeah, my head has been spinning a little. And at my home I still have my wife looking at the B2410 and saying, "what's wrong with this one?" If it was only a perfect world.

Darrell
 
/ Any Final Thoughts #38  
Well there you go! Since the wife doesn't see anything wrong with the small tractor and half the advice here is to get a bigger one while the other is to have a smaller one, the solution is obvious.

Keep the smaller one and get a big one in matching color! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 

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