Dirt Moving Any ideas on how to be reachable when operating your tractor?

   / Any ideas on how to be reachable when operating your tractor? #31  
I have to agree with lhfarm.

I do not believe that your job should be classified as exempt and I think you are entitled to years of back overtime. As I understand it, exempt jobs have to involve either supervision of people or very high need for judgement and solving unknown complex problems.

Troubleshooting and equipment repair are not exempt activities. The hospital classifying them as exempt is probably illegal.
 
   / Any ideas on how to be reachable when operating your tractor? #32  
If your boss wants you to higher someone to do the dozer work she should feel free to pay the bill.:thumbsup:
BTW, we MUST take one day a month off without pay and that happened when I was on call, didn't pick up the phone for 24 hours. Don't care if a train went off a bridge. No money= no work.:cool:
 
   / Any ideas on how to be reachable when operating your tractor?
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#33  
I have to agree with lhfarm.

I do not believe that your job should be classified as exempt and I think you are entitled to years of back overtime. As I understand it, exempt jobs have to involve either supervision of people or very high need for judgement and solving unknown complex problems.

Troubleshooting and equipment repair are not exempt activities. The hospital classifying them as exempt is probably illegal.

I looked into to it both privately and with the State employment board the year it happened... of the three classes of exemption... Executive, Administrative, Professional... the consensus was my employer had the option to reclassify my position under "Professional Exemption". I realize only a court has the final say... but it was clear that it was not a black and white issue.

The Professional Exemption does not require supervision of employees or the ability to hire of fire staff.. it does require at least a Bachelor Degree in the Sciences, working in the field of study and earning at least 2 x State Minimum wage... being a licensed professional is comprised of individuals who are licensed by the State of California and primarily engaged in the practice of law, medicine, dentistry, optometry, architecture, engineering, teaching, or accounting. (Note, pharmacists and most nurses expressly are excluded from this exemption.)

Without question, Registered Nurses meet the requirement of Exempt Status... so the legislature specifically prohibits RN's from being classified as Exempt... I know RN's in CA that regularly make around 150k per year... they must be paid overtime and double time and that can really add up when the hourly salary is $50.

This said... Under both federal and state law, employers bear the burden of proving an exemption applies (that the employee is appropriately classified as exempt) and damages, if awarded are generally retroactive for a maximum of 4 years.

All of this would be a non-issue if I was working as a member of the Union of Stationary Engineers... Then the employer is required to provide suitable contact equipment when on call as well as on call pay and is subject to overtime and holiday pay scales... good if you can get it, but the trend has been out sourcing and maintenance agreements to reduce staff.

For a time, in the 90's, we were part of the Largest Healthcare organization in the country and I received a pink slip on acquisition because corporate policy was to outsource engineering... my boss told corporate any money they think they might save would evaporate the first time a case was cancelled due to a Facility Problem... Corporate backed down and in 1998 completely divested from the California market...
 
   / Any ideas on how to be reachable when operating your tractor? #34  
Ultrarunner, I liked that bit about the charity fundraiser where you "volunteered" We used to call that being voluntold.

my job does that stuff too.

I once skipped a project that was crawling with volunteer labor. my schedule for the next 2 months was jerked around. next volunteer work that came up i was the first on the list. amazingly my schedule got straightened out.. go figure..

soundguy
 
   / Any ideas on how to be reachable when operating your tractor? #35  
I wear a Peltor digital radio noise reduction earphones that have an auxiliary audio input while using my tractor. My cellphone, which has an audio jack, goes in my shirt pocket and connects to the phones with a small cable.
I listen to music while tractoring and when a call comes in, the cell phone ringing mixes with the music in my phones.
Does our pager have an audio output jack?
 
   / Any ideas on how to be reachable when operating your tractor? #36  
I believe he said no.. but that might be something that can be remidied with new equipment or different phone.. etc.

soundguy
 
   / Any ideas on how to be reachable when operating your tractor? #37  
I believe he said no.. but that might be something that can be remidied with new equipment or different phone.. etc.

soundguy

Or a soldering iron and some wire.
 
   / Any ideas on how to be reachable when operating your tractor? #38  
Strange thing... Boss sent an e-mail yesterday afternoon semi-apologizing. Looks like she knew she was over the top... the main reason for the pages was a problem that didn't exist!

While your boss is on the defensive, I would try to talk with her and see if you can work out something. I suggest that they call her first and then only she can call you. This will straighten out things pretty quick. If she is not willing to wake up in the middle of the night, then you should not have to come in. At least if you suggest this, then maybe she will get some understanding of what you put up with. Does she really feel (not just know) what you put up with.
 
   / Any ideas on how to be reachable when operating your tractor? #39  
   / Any ideas on how to be reachable when operating your tractor? #40  
I looked into to it both privately and with the State employment board the year it happened... of the three classes of exemption... Executive, Administrative, Professional... the consensus was my employer had the option to reclassify my position under "Professional Exemption". I realize only a court has the final say... but it was clear that it was not a black and white issue....

This said... Under both federal and state law, employers bear the burden of proving an exemption applies (that the employee is appropriately classified as exempt) and damages, if awarded are generally retroactive for a maximum of 4 years...

For a time, in the 90's, we were part of the Largest Healthcare organization in the country and I received a pink slip on acquisition because corporate policy was to outsource engineering... my boss told corporate any money they think they might save would evaporate the first time a case was cancelled due to a Facility Problem... Corporate backed down and in 1998 completely divested from the California market...

As I stated, I'm not an expert and you have done your home work. There is zero protection for exempt employees under FLSA. I work for a very large university and we have employees including doctors, nurses, mechanical and systems engineers, policeman and tech support on 24/7 call. I'm still surprised by the classification, but this is a very complex area. I'm just about to retire from my job as an internal management consultant, dealing with management issues just like this one. I will offer a couple of suggestions about what I would do if you and your boss were my client.

There are two (actual I see many more) issues here. The first is how can you be contacted at all times (the subject line) and the second is what happens when that isn't possible. I'll start with the hard one, what happens if you can't be there because of illness, accident or a hundred other reasons.

I was the backup to my tech support manager when I was responsible for the unit that provided computer support to executive management. I made sure that my manager had every communications tool available, but I also knew she had a family and a personal life that needed to be respected. I think your boss' expectations are completely unreasonable. My guess is she doesn't have the skills to be your backup. Without you, she is subject to failure and her actions are driven by fear. Not a healthy situation for her, you or the hospital.

Given that neither of you want a failure (a disruption of patient services being a prime example), I would think you need a much better back-up strategy. My guess is that you will need to develop the plan for her. You may already have a list of local companies (HVAC, plumbing, electrical) that you use and trust who could be called in when you aren't available. This doesn't have to be costly and can be managed by you. But you will need to provide her with specific implementation instructions. If you want to PM, I have some ideas on how to approach this. Bottom line is that you both would sleep better if you have a "business continuity plan" in place.

The university, as a general practice, providers workers with the proper tools to do the job. That includes, in some cases, satellite Internet connections and phone service. As others have suggested, I would investigate the best technical solutions and present those to your boss. The trick is to present them as a solution to her problem of how to always be able to contact you. You may need to do a cost/benefit analysis if that is important to her. The bottom line here is that you are going to need to do all the work and planning here too.

The advice is free and that is probably its value, but I do hope you find solutions that make your tractor time more enjoyable.
 

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