Any one have their own saw mill ?

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Steppenwolfe

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I have some pretty ambitious plans for a barn, equipment shed, and various other structures. I also prefer the old timey look of wood structures. AND I happen to have 8 to 10 acres of pines 8 to 16 inches in diameter I want to get rid of and turn to meadow. So, I got to thinking why not cut and mill my own lumber. If you have done anything like this, I would like to here about it. I have been researching home type band saw mills, and think I might have a good idea here. Any two cents will be welcomed. Thanks
 
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Sounds like a good idea to me. I am also planning on building a barn and other outbuildings and have every intention of buying a sawmill to do so. I will have the time so it makes sense to me.
 
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The driving around area here in east TN over the last 8 years I have come across many home /farm built sawmills and I too want one ! The only problem is they are almost never for sale even the ones that haven't been used for years , kinda sad that they will let them just rot away rather than sell them but I'm still trying to buy one ! I may just break down and buy the woodmizer but I really wanted an old school sawmill .....:thumbsup:
 
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Do a search on this site. Should be a few sawmill's shown.:)

You will also get numerous hits on google or YouTube.:)
 
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When I was young my dad made something he called an Alaskan Sawmill. It was a couple of aluminium ladder rails, some clamps, and a chainsaw. Cut fairly nice boards, but I'm sure it was Far more work then I realized at the time. I think he got the idea/plans from "Mother Earth News" or some magazine that sounded like that, kinda a cross between a Homesteader/weirdo hippy news mag.
 
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When I was young my dad made something he called an Alaskan Sawmill. It was a couple of aluminium ladder rails, some clamps, and a chainsaw. Cut fairly nice boards, but I'm sure it was Far more work then I realized at the time. I think he got the idea/plans from "Mother Earth News" or some magazine that sounded like that, kinda a cross between a Homesteader/weirdo hippy news mag.

They sell them online for a couple of hundred dollars , They show them on you tube looks like a good idea to use out in the bush
 
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Dad bought a new HD40 Woodmiser in '88. It had a 21' bed, so as to saw 20' logs. It was the berries..!! He sawed over 160,000 BF of lumber on it in 9 years, before his passing, he counted, and looged every job.. Most of it was custom work, and never advestised. Keeping the machine, and blades in top shape is the key. If you've ever been to where they demonstrate the Woodmiser's, and watch them saw a slab off maybe 3/16" thick, they are amazing. He would do that on his, if someone stopped to see how good of work he and it did.

He did a lot of work for a custom builder that built high end houses. He would tear down old barns for the beams, and have Dad saw the faces off the timbers for VERY expensive paneling, then saw the rest for hardwood flooring. He even sawed out beams/timbers for another builder, who wanted to build his own pinned type barn.

He also got the automatic blade sharpener, and setter. Again, keeping the blades sharp, and proper set are the key to quality sawn lumber.

You'd be surprised the logs that were given to him from someone building a new home in a wooded spot. And I'm talking cherry, walnut, poplar, sassafras, etc.

He passed in '98, and mom sold the mill 5 years later, as I had 5 years to work yet, and no time to run the mill. There's probably close to 10,000 BF of cherry & poplar still stacked & stuck in the barns, plus several stacks of pine & white oak.
 
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I built my own Alaska sawmill and used it to two side logs for the cabin I built in Alaska. The entire operation was very labor intensive and definitely a job for a young man. The mill worked just great to two side the logs but it was very rough on the chainsaw - particularly the bar. I put double amount of lube oil in the chainsaw gas and rotated the chain bar every day. The cabin was built in '67 and still stands and is in use today.
 
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... I got to thinking why not cut and mill my own lumber. If you have done anything like this, I would like to here about it. I have been researching home type band saw mills, and think I might have a good idea here. Any two cents will be welcomed. Thanks
On several occasions my neighbor has hired a local guy to bring his WoodMizer to the neighbor's lot. Logs were collected, and in several hours of work, many board feet were produced. It made me want one until i looked at the investment. You might look at hiring someone to mill on your site, unless you envision getting into the milling business to pick up money on the side.
 
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Steppenwolfe,

When I was just a youngster, I built a band saw saw mill. I used angle iron as the track. The wheels the blade rode on was made of two heavy duty 4 gang pullys. I bought enough belt to make the tire for the blade to ride on. All was heavy but simple off the shelf stuff. Like 1" keyed shafts and pillow block bearings.

At the time I had no $$ so I built it. Today, I would by a used one

They are fun to use
 
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Steppenwolfe,

When I was just a youngster, I built a band saw saw mill. I used angle iron as the track. The wheels the blade rode on was made of two heavy duty 4 gang pullys. I bought enough belt to make the tire for the blade to ride on. All was heavy but simple off the shelf stuff. Like 1" keyed shafts and pillow block bearings.

At the time I had no $$ so I built it. Today, I would by a used one

They are fun to use
 
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I purchased a Kasco mill when we bought out property. I was working as a timber cutter at the time. I select cut a few trees from our property as well as doing some clearing and sawed the lumber to build our house. That was 20 years ago. I kept the mill and did custom sawing for people for another 10 years. Then a guy I had done a lot of sawing for offered me nearly what I gave for it. I sold it to him as I was then starting to work in concrete and never seemed to have the time to saw.
Those that state that sharp blades and proper set are the key are right on. I also agree with the Woodmisers are nice mills too. I have a buddy that runs one and it does well, much easier on the back than mine was as mine was all manual and 25% of the cost. But you could not tell the difference in the lumber that came off if them.
My father in-law has a very nice mill a Cook brand very very nice, right around 60k the way if us set up.
 
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Step, I have a Woodmized LT15 Bandmill which I used to build my house, 1/3 of a hay barn(so far), a mill shed and a few other projects. It has paid for itself many times over. I started out with a CSM(chainsaw mill) and quickly realized that a band is really much more practical on large projects. First you need to decide if you want a all manual mill or one with hydraulics. My LT15 can do everything a full hyd mill can do, but it requires labor and time. Someday I will trade up to the LT35 full hyd mill.....but new that's about $20K....I only have $6K tied up in the LT15. As mentioned above go here to read learn & ask questions about band mills:
http://www.forestryforum.com/board/index.php?board=7.0

Here are some pics of my LT15 millng my 5x10 rafters out of 26' Hemlock that was 25" in dameter:
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loadind a smaller pine log for the barn build:
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millng:
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I built a sawmill to saw the lumber to build our house. Worst decision I made in the building process. Should have just bought the LT-15 and I would have been money ahead, had my milling done and sold it on down the road before I finished my bandmill. Hindsight is great though.

Still have the mill, it hasn't been run in 5 years as I've been too busy but because its home built not worth much. Hope to find a good blade sharpener again and mill up some beams but been too busy.
 
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Go for it. I bought a used Woodmizer LT30 20 odd years ago and built my own house with it. Many a time since, I've wanted that mill back. I just got a used LT 15 GO yesterday. Chomping at the bit to get started. Next project is an addition to a shed I built years ago. Forestry forum is a wealth of knowledge. If you get a mill, keep in mind you're on the bottom of a learning curve.
 
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I have an alaskan and it is fun, but I would NEVER use it for any sort of serious production work. M7 has it nailed, and did a great job on his place.

My only two questions on all of this is drying of the wood (how did you do it? Did you need to do it?) And the actual cutting of the wood, I have seen sites that say you need to cut logs a particular way so that the lumber you cut is correct and structurally sound.
 
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I have a Cook MP32 . The pic shows quartersawing a 30" post oak. I've had it 11 years and have modified it to electrically assist most of the log moving/turning.
 

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   / Any one have their own saw mill ? #19  
Mom's cousin bought a couple of acres of wooded land.
Bought a second hand logging crane.
Built a log house with scored and cut 2' or so diameter tree logs.

Cut most of the interior lumber.

It was a project that took several years, but the end result is truly spectacular.

I don't know much about the sawmill, other than he bought an old combine to salvage the motor which runs it.

Anyway...
Sawmills do come up for sale occasionally.

This one showed up on Craigslist today. I think it is being moved from Texas to Oregon.
Woodmizer Sawmill

Also locally.
SAWMILL-WoodMizer LT-40 Super Hydraulic

and a bit larger, but rougher one.
1950'S OLD FASHION PORTABLE SAW MILL

And Another.
Sawmill Woodmizer LT40 Super Deisel

Don't they have some trees left back East? I'd be surprised if you can't find one locally. Most of the portable ones appear to have bandsaws. I don't know what my Mom's cousin has, bandsaw vs circular saw. I would assume some of the smaller ones have a thinner kerf, and thus less wasted wood.
 
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We've got a Bellsaw 42" inserted tooth PTO powered mill. We had a Lane/Chase before that powered by a 671 Detroit. We've tried bandsaws, but for the money ($1000 +-) you can pick up a circular saw Bellsaw that runs off your tractor, saws 2-3x as much per day and does a nice job. I like the bandmills and all, but when our 1000 dollar mill will saw 3 times what our friends $40,000 woodmizer will saw, I'll take the circular saw anyday. The bandmill makers cry about sawdust waste, but for the amount anyone here is going to saw, an extra bladewidth of sawdust would take several lifetimes to pay back for the cost of a bandmill and blades vs a circular mill. JMHO:2cents:
 

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