Anybody run Full Skip ?

[hslogger]

I see that Fred is in Oregon. 063.guage full skip is what timber cutters run, most often with square tooth. If you are using Stihl chain you will find it hard to hand file square. Round file is easier. Oregon chain is easy to file or grind. GENERALLY speaking the full skip is best in the fir and alder, and sorta rough in the oak, especially if you don't have 'er just right. More often than not, if a guy is just doing utility work, firewood, dirty work, semi skip round is a better way to go. Full comp is always a good bet for safety, especially with less experienced users. As you can see Full skip on your old '41 can really go through the wood. Just remember it IS a high kickback chain, and that is why it not ideal for general use. If you are running anything over 32" your saw really can't handle it. In the day we ran 041's for thinning and they were a good saw for that. If you stick a 24 or 28 inch bar on it you will really cut.

 

[s219]

S219 : You still have that chain ?? Any way to get pictures , That would be kind of cool to see .

Sure do -- I will try to grab a picture over the weekend.

 

[s219]

S219,
I finally figured out that we're talking about two different ways of grinding off half of the horozonal cutting edges. You meant that the horozinal edges were ground to half of their origonal width. On my chain, the horizonal part of the tooth was ground completely off on every other tooth on each side. Maybe that wouldn't total up to half of the teeth but, I thought it would. The way your chain is configured really is an interesting concept. I'd never thought about doing it that way.

I think that is very close to the chain I have, though they leave a little (and I mean little) of the flat part of the cutter there. The idea is to make the kerf with two outside cuts using the skinny cutters, and then the third "wide" one comes through and simply clears out the middle as a chip.

 

[s219]

Here's a diagram of that "Granberg" rip chain from their website:

 

[stuckmotor]

S219,
You're right. I forgot about the tiny bit of the horizonal left on the chain.

 

[FredH]

Cool Diagram !! That is interesting Thxs


Fred H.

 

[Tollster]

I did a MM to XP550 18" bar and running full skip in clean wood and mostly softwoods, I find the semi holds an edge better in dirty wood and hard wood.. Just my opinion, as a weekender..LOL

I'm running stihl chains, round tooth

 

[yomax4]

I bought some full skips to run on my 044. They cut super fast but didn't seem to stay sharp as long as the std. chains. They do sharpen up much quicker with the fewer teeth but seem to wear out faster too. I'm not sure of the benefit. Hard to argue with big chips but more frequent sharpening and replacement seems to be the norm.

 

[xring100]

Recently purchased a back up chain for my 441 Stihl . All the Dealer had in .063 was full skip , So I said " What the Heck , Why not " . Have not ran full skip since summer part time logging work in High School then a few years full time after High School in late '70's . Cutting up a log truck load of Hardwood I had delivered last spring , mostly madrone with a few oaks , any were from 8" to 24"+ in diameter .

Whoa Nellie , Now that is some Wood Cutting .:thumbsup: I have found my favorite chain to use now . Still kick myself thinking back when I sold my 041's , that I should of kept the 28" bar I had on one of them but the 25" on the 441 does the job .:cool2:

Fred H.

My ms660 36" came with a RSC full chisel chain first time I used it was on a 32" oak that had uprooted in a windstorm. We cut it back from the top. When we got to big part of the tree when I would get about 28-30" into the tree the bar would bind whenever I had full line contact. I Physically had to pull the saw free due to inadequate chip clearance it would pack in around the bar.
I used the chain once and ordered 2 loops of the RSF full chisel full skip chain no regrets. I also ordered 2 loops of RMF semi chisel full skip. Most of the big Oaks I've cut are hollow and full of junk. Semi chisels stay sharper longer in dirty wood

 

[xring100]

As someone else mentioned they also help out on underpowered saws but giving you more horsepower per tooth lets you maintain higher rpm without bogging down as easy. I don't have that problem with my 660 or 361