Anybody use this in their tractors

   / Anybody use this in their tractors #11  
You don't have to get 100% of the water out. Only 97%. Old school isn't always best. If we never made changes and or improvements, we as the human race, would not be where we are today. Otherwise we'll still be using horses, or steam engines, or flathead engines, lubricating with vegetable oils, or rancid petroleum grease. Don't be so closed minded and skeptic people! Maybe the mpg claims are not accurate, maybe they ARE if you read the fine print. But one thing is you can't go through life with you head in the sand.

Please cite your sources for not having to get 100% of the water out. Here are some excerpts from the Evans pages that fueled my statement of 100%...

"Every Evans Waterless Coolant requires the entire cooling system to be drained (radiator, engine block and heater core) and refilled 100% with one of the Evans Waterless Coolants. No need to add anything. Evans now has three different coolants to choose from depending on the application and use of your specific vehicle. Also available is a flush fluid for smaller engines without block drains."

"Evans Prep Fluid is a waterless cooling system flush designed to seek out remaining water after draining the cooling system of an engine."

"Heavy Duty Coolant is a lifetime coolant if it does not become contaminated with water"

Every word of that is directly from the Evans site and tells you that you must eliminate 100% of the water from the system and *keep* it that way.
 
   / Anybody use this in their tractors #12  
Please cite your sources for not having to get 100% of the water out. Here are some excerpts from the Evans pages that fueled my statement of 100%...

"Every Evans Waterless Coolant requires the entire cooling system to be drained (radiator, engine block and heater core) and refilled 100% with one of the Evans Waterless Coolants. No need to add anything. Evans now has three different coolants to choose from depending on the application and use of your specific vehicle. Also available is a flush fluid for smaller engines without block drains."



"Evans Prep Fluid is a waterless cooling system flush designed to seek out remaining water after draining the cooling system of an engine."

"Heavy Duty Coolant is a lifetime coolant if it does not become contaminated with water"

Every word of that is directly from the Evans site and tells you that you must eliminate 100% of the water from the system and *keep* it that way.

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Watch the video with Jay Leno. They state in the video that it is not necessary to get 100% of the water out. Evans can have up to 3% water in the system.
 
   / Anybody use this in their tractors #13  
I never heard of the stuff, so no I dont use it.

I am not one to have my head stuck in the sand and am always open to change and new invention. BUT....when bogus claims are made to try to trick or underhand the comsumer, that tells me that the rest of the claims are probabally bogus too.

Like the MPG gain. Get real. They are ONLY basing that on the fact that "their" stuff has a higher boiling point so that it "can" operate at a higher temp "if" a new thermostat is used, and that "may" result in a little better mileage. While it may be a good coolant, it is certainly no magic in a can that you just dump in and instantly get 10% better economy.

But back to the "increasing operating temperature": is that really a good idea??? Manufactures have designed (optimized) the engine to run at a certain temp. Do we really want to run 30 or 50 degrees hotter than that?

AND...even if that were better (to run hotter), that can be done with glycol coolant already. Sure, water boils at 212 AT 1 ATM. In a pressurized system of about 15-16psi like most cooling systems, and mixed with glycol, we already have a boiling point of around 265 degrees. Yet manufactures still choose to run OP around 200.

Also, if we set the coolant 30-50 degrees higher to get the "claimed" mileage, what does that do to our oil temp????
 
   / Anybody use this in their tractors #14  
This has been around for many years, it has solved many problems with cooling in extreme situations, we ran it in drag cars and later in late model dirt cars it does work. So does a surfacant which makes water wetter.
 
   / Anybody use this in their tractors #15  
Sure Jay uses it. Half his stuff justs sits dormant for months at a time. One of the worst things for vehicles is "not moving the parts". Degradation is alot faster.
Never believed in any of those "miracle" additives,and like LD1 stated,why on earth would you want to increase your oil temp. Yeah,that's real good on the internals. Give me a break.:thumbdown:


Greg
 
   / Anybody use this in their tractors #16  
Oil temp ONLY needs to reach boiling or slightly above to boil off condensation that collects in the engine. Cooler than that is not good and leads to sludge. Hotter than that may be better for efficency and MPG, but certainly not better for the engine and oil and everything it is supposed to lubricate. Personally, Id take a few MPG reduction at the benefit of longevity any day of the week.
 
   / Anybody use this in their tractors #17  
AND...even if that were better (to run hotter), that can be done with glycol coolant already. Sure, water boils at 212 AT 1 ATM. In a pressurized system of about 15-16psi like most cooling systems, and mixed with glycol, we already have a boiling point of around 265 degrees. Yet manufactures still choose to run OP around 200.

my statement has nothing to do with the product being discussed, but one of the reasons to keep the glycol cooler is that heat breaks it down and glycol become acidic.
 
   / Anybody use this in their tractors #18  
You don't have to get 100% of the water out. Only 97%. Old school isn't always best. If we never made changes and or improvements, we as the human race, would not be where we are today. Otherwise we'll still be using horses, or steam engines, or flathead engines, lubricating with vegetable oils, or rancid petroleum grease. Don't be so closed minded and skeptic people! Maybe the mpg claims are not accurate, maybe they ARE if you read the fine print. But one thing is you can't go through life with you head in the sand.

Then buy in and report back.
 
   / Anybody use this in their tractors #19  
Wait... Their claim is that running hotter increases mileage because your fan can run less? Uh... Without other modifications the fan is going to come on at whatever temp it's set to come on at anyway. And that's assuming you have a temperature controlled electric fan anyway.
 
   / Anybody use this in their tractors #20  
Home » Engine Cooling Systems
Watch the video with Jay Leno. They state in the video that it is not necessary to get 100% of the water out. Evans can have up to 3% water in the system.

Water in the system will be considered "contamination", and the so-called Lifetime applicability goes out the window. They tell you how it's good forever, and that getting rid of the water eliminates corrosion, etc... But, then they say "well, you don't HAVE to get all of the water out" (because you can't).
 

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