We have 5 Arlo wireless cameras at our house. One is out on our shop maybe 100’ behind the house and one is in our driveway about 75’ from the house. They work great. Nice app for the phones to monitor them. The only downside is charging the batteries once a month or so. They have the capability to be hardwired to power I just haven’t got around to it yet.
Anyone do a security camera type system based out of home and shop?
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24 gigabit broadband? Who is your neighbor, Bill Gates? You would need more than CAT5 and homeowner networking equipment to handle that pipe
Heh heh. Got me on that one. It's currently 22 Mbps coming through the tubes. I do really like the Arlo. I see them lots in my travels and people like them. Thanks to all for the response and Little Bill for the guidance.
LittleBill21
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he prolly meant 2.4ghz (which is a radio frequency for wireless). good luck tom
remember tom stick to wired. you really don't want internet based camera's that has the potential to eat up that 22mbit for internet you have, get a standalone nvr and run everything over wire. most nvr's will allow viewing remote with proper port forwarding etc...
i have used swann units before and they are pretty reliable.
davrow
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I'm not sure about two cameras local and two remote. All must plug into the NVR before anything else, and even good ones only come with 100' of cable.
I have had cameras on our house for years, at $300 for the box and four cameras (example here) I'd suggest separate systems for the house and shop. Yes, it will take two IP addresses, so? Better coverage and very simple.
Mine are not POE, they use a twinned cable, separate power and signal.
Remember for the shop you want a camera or two inside as well as outside. I do, anyway. Same for the house when I go on vacation, I add a 5th camera showing entry and down main hall.
Remote viewing just appends the port number to our static IP address and the router sends the signal to the desired camera box.
(note: I currently have low-end Q-See systems, but keep shopping hoping something better will come along. All brands seem to have some real issues. Some day I might upgrade to a high-end system, but for now what I have is good enough.)
I have had cameras on our house for years, at $300 for the box and four cameras (example here) I'd suggest separate systems for the house and shop. Yes, it will take two IP addresses, so? Better coverage and very simple.
Mine are not POE, they use a twinned cable, separate power and signal.
Remember for the shop you want a camera or two inside as well as outside. I do, anyway. Same for the house when I go on vacation, I add a 5th camera showing entry and down main hall.
Remote viewing just appends the port number to our static IP address and the router sends the signal to the desired camera box.
(note: I currently have low-end Q-See systems, but keep shopping hoping something better will come along. All brands seem to have some real issues. Some day I might upgrade to a high-end system, but for now what I have is good enough.)
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LittleBill21
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if the camera's are ip based it shouldn't matter where in the system they are, but yes it can depend on what specific camera system he uses. the ubiquiti ones, which i have no experience with are ip based and don't matter where in the system they are plugged in.
dlctcg
Platinum Member
Just so I make sure I understand this:
- Your current system consist of a broadband Router (you don’t mention if this is a WiFI enabled router) at the house; either owned by you or your ISP which has multiple switch ports on it (10 / 100 /1000 – hopefully)
- You then have a hardwired connection to the Ubiquity station on the outside of the house for your WiFi Access Point
- You also have a CAT5 cable from the in-house modem out to the shop which is connected to a WiFi Router out there, to have WiFi access in the shop. (I’m assuming you are using this just *** an Access Point & not as a second router)
If all of this is the case I agree with LittleBill21.. You will have no issues installing IP Cameras in the two different locations, as long as they are on the same network (IP Range)… I would possible design it slightly different.
I’m not going to discuss the house side of the network… but hopefully you have 10/100/1000 switch ports on your existing Router, if not it not a deal breaker….
I would purchase a low cost unmanaged 10/100/1000 network switch (non-PoE unless you are going to do more than two cameras in the shop). Install this switch in the shop connected to your existing CAT 5 cable & from there run your CAT 5 cables to you cameras (obviously passing through the PoE injectors for the cameras first). Then use a patch cable to reconnect you shop Access Point to the switch. Again I’m assuming you are using this as an Access Point & not a Router & you are broadcasting the same SSID (WiFi network name) everywhere…
As long as none of you Cat 5 cable runs are longer than 328 feet (100m) in the shop you will be fine as the switch will extend the network.
Couple of notes on the equipment:
- Depending on the NVR & Cameras you may have to manually configure the two cameras out in the shop for the NVR to see them. This is due to how some manufactures look for the cameras on the network, if they search via MAC address they will most likely find them, but some systems you may have to config the camera & tell the NVR to find it. This is not a big deal just another process.
- For remote viewing… If you can find a NVR that uses a remote relay server of authentication it is a much more secure way of connecting remotely without having to open ports on your router.
Hope this makes sense…
- Your current system consist of a broadband Router (you don’t mention if this is a WiFI enabled router) at the house; either owned by you or your ISP which has multiple switch ports on it (10 / 100 /1000 – hopefully)
- You then have a hardwired connection to the Ubiquity station on the outside of the house for your WiFi Access Point
- You also have a CAT5 cable from the in-house modem out to the shop which is connected to a WiFi Router out there, to have WiFi access in the shop. (I’m assuming you are using this just *** an Access Point & not as a second router)
If all of this is the case I agree with LittleBill21.. You will have no issues installing IP Cameras in the two different locations, as long as they are on the same network (IP Range)… I would possible design it slightly different.
I’m not going to discuss the house side of the network… but hopefully you have 10/100/1000 switch ports on your existing Router, if not it not a deal breaker….
I would purchase a low cost unmanaged 10/100/1000 network switch (non-PoE unless you are going to do more than two cameras in the shop). Install this switch in the shop connected to your existing CAT 5 cable & from there run your CAT 5 cables to you cameras (obviously passing through the PoE injectors for the cameras first). Then use a patch cable to reconnect you shop Access Point to the switch. Again I’m assuming you are using this as an Access Point & not a Router & you are broadcasting the same SSID (WiFi network name) everywhere…
As long as none of you Cat 5 cable runs are longer than 328 feet (100m) in the shop you will be fine as the switch will extend the network.
Couple of notes on the equipment:
- Depending on the NVR & Cameras you may have to manually configure the two cameras out in the shop for the NVR to see them. This is due to how some manufactures look for the cameras on the network, if they search via MAC address they will most likely find them, but some systems you may have to config the camera & tell the NVR to find it. This is not a big deal just another process.
- For remote viewing… If you can find a NVR that uses a remote relay server of authentication it is a much more secure way of connecting remotely without having to open ports on your router.
Hope this makes sense…
dlctcg
Platinum Member
And for anyone that wants to build there own PC as their NVR take a look at Blue Iris Software... I have limited experience with them thus far but pretty impressed so far... (currently only have 2 systems running it so to early to call a real verdict) but very feature rich if you lick building your own stuff & the Pro version of the software will support up to 64 cameras... I don't know enough yet as I am running the 2 systems for a client of mine & only for a couple of months thus far but it seems pretty robust for the price so far... Thinking we may purchase a licence in-house to do some real testing on it... 64 IP cameras is a lot.... Just another option out there
LittleBill21
Elite Member
unless things have change since i used blue iris, if they don't do gpu offloading, that software was very cpu intensive if you only did motion based recording, aka you need some serious horsepower for a decent amount of camera's with motion tracking recording, mind you this was about 5-6 years ago, so i don't know if that is still the case
robstaples
Gold Member
I am running 20 cameras on Blue Iris software for several years. It is vary configurable and has a great support forum: IPCAMTALK.com. I started with a NVR and it had limited configuration capability. Just to add to a previous comment, when you direct connect to a NVR, it uses a separate subnet for the cameras then for its network connection. IP cameras, give them power and connect to a switch and every thing on network can see them. I watch driveway, yard for animals and birds including an eagles nest. Included pic for fun.
