Anyone else holding out for new 2013 Chevy/GMC truck?

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   / Anyone else holding out for new 2013 Chevy/GMC truck? #161  
The best truck that would have hit the market id this one. A Toyota Dually with a HINO diesel. I've had Hino diesels in all my Box delivery vans and have never put a nickel in repairs and never been in the shop. Of the three trucks I have that get beat up by my drivers not one has failed me. One is going on 20 years now.

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Toyota built this one off monster because the got sick and tired of the auto press taking pictures of the Toyota NASCAR team 5th wheel trailer being pulled by a Chevy or Ford.
 
   / Anyone else holding out for new 2013 Chevy/GMC truck? #162  
Of course we had the 800 billion dollar stimulus that was suppose to be for "shovel ready" projects. It was suppose to rebuild our road and bridges. instead it went BS projects.
BS projects and BS special tax cuts. CPAs love special tax cuts even more than they love special taxes. The biggest obstacle to having a simplified tax code is the accountants themselves. They are like industrialization-era workers sabotaging machinery in an attempt to save their jobs -- except the CPAs have been doing it successfully for decades, and the machine they are sabotaging is our whole economy.

It's not just income taxes, either. Do you ever look at your phone bill? I do. About ten years ago, I developed software to bill various kinds of phone calls for a start-up company. I'm pretty good at that and rather than spend millions of dollars on off-the-shelf software+support, or pay high per-call fees to have the calls billed by some third-party, I did it all in-house. Everything, that is, except the tax calculations.

Why? Because every time you make a phone call, you and the phone companies may be paying taxes to: two cities, two counties, two states, two state universal service funds, and the federal universal service fund. As a 50-state company it was not possible for us to keep up with all the pissant city and county taxes on phone calls -- even calculating the state ones in-house was not worth it for us because we were already paying per-call for tax calculation to handle the local stuff.

Phone calls aren't the only thing that are taxed this way. Fuel, electricity, water, pay television, cigarettes, beer, the list goes on and on. All these suppliers of goods and services that consumers purchase spend a lot of money figuring out those special taxes and paying them, and in some cases, the localities spend more money keeping track of them than they even earn from the **** tax receipts (long distance doesn't cost $0.30/minute anymore so a 1% tax on it isn't what it used to be.)

All these special taxes need to be eliminated. So do all the special tax dodges. The job of accountants should be to keep track of money, not to figure out the best new way to game the tax code, and continually lobby for it to become more and more complex so they can keep earning their salaries by cheating the working man out of decent roads.
 
   / Anyone else holding out for new 2013 Chevy/GMC truck? #163  
There may be some disagreements but there has been a lot of good common sense expressed in the last several posts. I hope these same sentiments are being expressed to elected officials as well. I can tell you that mostly they just hear from people wanting something.
 
   / Anyone else holding out for new 2013 Chevy/GMC truck?
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Wow. It's amazing how political this thread got. I'm a GM truck fan that just happens to work for GM. I always look foward to the new products that's being released. In the past few years GM has turned out some very nice midsize and small cars that are very eye appealing and boast good MPG's. I'm a truck guy. So when it was confirmed that the full-size trucks were getting an overhaul, I was ready to hold out to see if the truckline looks any more appealing than it does now. I will admit some good political points were made here. :thumbsup:
 
   / Anyone else holding out for new 2013 Chevy/GMC truck? #165  
Wow,
I'm enjoying the political/financial part of the thread, but have nothing to add.

To Topkicker:

I'm holding out, probably to 2013 to buy a new truck. Looking for a work truck 3/4 ton extended cab GMC. I'm really hoping the current styling is held until then, as I feel that the current offerings are the best styling that GM has ever produced. I do have a question for you though: I remember you mentioning that you work in the Ft Wayne plant and that the only trucks that are assembled there are the regular cab trucks. Where are the extended cab trucks made?

BTW - my 04 GMC currently has 177K miles, has been trouble free (other than typical maintenance and abuse), very reliable and was assembeld in Ft Wayne!
 
   / Anyone else holding out for new 2013 Chevy/GMC truck? #166  
crashz said:
Wow,
I'm enjoying the political/financial part of the thread, but have nothing to add.

To Topkicker:

I'm holding out, probably to 2013 to buy a new truck. Looking for a work truck 3/4 ton extended cab GMC. I'm really hoping the current styling is held until then, as I feel that the current offerings are the best styling that GM has ever produced. I do have a question for you though: I remember you mentioning that you work in the Ft Wayne plant and that the only trucks that are assembled there are the regular cab trucks. Where are the extended cab trucks made?

BTW - my 04 GMC currently has 177K miles, has been trouble free (other than typical maintenance and abuse), very reliable and was assembeld in Ft Wayne!

Most of the new trucks are built in flint, Michigan. There's another plant somewhere in the south, Texas I believe, where top kicker is, that builds the rest.
 
   / Anyone else holding out for new 2013 Chevy/GMC truck? #167  
Wow,
I'm enjoying the political/financial part of the thread, but have nothing to add.

To Topkicker:

I'm holding out, probably to 2013 to buy a new truck. Looking for a work truck 3/4 ton extended cab GMC. I'm really hoping the current styling is held until then, as I feel that the current offerings are the best styling that GM has ever produced. I do have a question for you though: I remember you mentioning that you work in the Ft Wayne plant and that the only trucks that are assembled there are the regular cab trucks. Where are the extended cab trucks made?

BTW - my 04 GMC currently has 177K miles, has been trouble free (other than typical maintenance and abuse), very reliable and was assembeld in Ft Wayne!

Again, why a 3/4 ton? 1 Ton SRW is so much more truck for not much money, especially with Ford. Not such a big deal on a GM truck because its just a 700# or so upgrade in payload and tongue weight but it does make a noticeable difference.

Chris
 
   / Anyone else holding out for new 2013 Chevy/GMC truck? #168  
Diamondpilot said:
Again, why a 3/4 ton? 1 Ton SRW is so much more truck for not much money, especially with Ford. Not such a big deal on a GM truck because its just a 700# or so upgrade in payload and tongue weight but it does make a noticeable difference.

Chris

A 3/4 handles a lot better without any load. Lot smoother ride as the suspension doesn't need to be as strong. If your hauling all the time then a 1 ton is worth it but if a 3/4 hauls what you need and your not hauling all the time then you get a lot smoother ride. That's why when getting a truck to pull a horse trailer 10 years ago the dealer talked me out of the F350 SRW and into an F250.
 
   / Anyone else holding out for new 2013 Chevy/GMC truck? #169  
A 3/4 handles a lot better without any load. Lot smoother ride as the suspension doesn't need to be as strong. If your hauling all the time then a 1 ton is worth it but if a 3/4 hauls what you need and your not hauling all the time then you get a lot smoother ride. That's why when getting a truck to pull a horse trailer 10 years ago the dealer talked me out of the F350 SRW and into an F250.

I do not buy that. I had a 04 F-250 diesel 4x4 with the 10,000# GVWR package(largest) and a 06 F-350 SRW diesel 4x4 with the 11,500# GVWR package(largest) and could not tell the difference but sure could when a load was on it. Unloaded I could blind fold anyone and they would have no idea which one I was in. Still have the F-350 and just sold the F-250 and got a BMW or I would still have it. So what I am saying is I had them for 5 years overlapping.

By the way both were Super Cabs and Short beds so virtually identical except the front end on the F-250 was leaf spring being a 04 and the F-350 had coils being a 06 due to a redesign in 05. I could not tell much difference in the front end other than the 06 steering much sharper.

Chris
 
   / Anyone else holding out for new 2013 Chevy/GMC truck? #170  
I do not buy that. I had a 04 F-250 diesel 4x4 with the 10,000# GVWR package(largest) and a 06 F-350 SRW diesel 4x4 with the 11,500# GVWR package(largest) and could not tell the difference but sure could when a load was on it. Unloaded I could blind fold anyone and they would have no idea which one I was in. Still have the F-350 and just sold the F-250 and got a BMW or I would still have it. So what I am saying is I had them for 5 years overlapping.

By the way both were Super Cabs and Short beds so virtually identical except the front end on the F-250 was leaf spring being a 04 and the F-350 had coils being a 06 due to a redesign in 05. I could not tell much difference in the front end other than the 06 steering much sharper.

Chris

How about the rear "squatting"? I noticed, mine included, it seemed to squat a good bit with a 1/2 ton rated load. Does the single wheel 350 remedy some of this? See pic
 

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