Anyone ever had their ROPS top part cut down?

   / Anyone ever had their ROPS top part cut down? #1  

RalphVa

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JD is plain nuts. Why did they design a foldable ROPS that is too tall to fit underneath normal garage doors?

For this reason, I've kept mine folded. It's above my head even folded, but I keep bumping my head on it when working back there. So, I'm thinking about taking the top part off and getting it cut down (only about 2" needed to be removed) and, or course, put back together minus the cut-outs.

Anyone done this?

Ralph
 
   / Anyone ever had their ROPS top part cut down? #2  
I'm sure there are some that have cut and rewelded their too tall ROPS. For safety reasons I wouldn't cut the ROPS and reweld. If you have insurance on the tractor, cut the ROPS shorter and reweld and get into a rollover situation the Insurance Co. won't pay if ROPS has been modified.
No insurance, then cut away and have a certified welder reweld it, if you can find one to do it and not want the liability if you get hurt.
 
   / Anyone ever had their ROPS top part cut down? #3  
I am sure the manufacturers have a well laid out engineering reason for making the ROPS the height that they are.

It is called GEOMETRY

As far as getting someone to weld it, I think any professional and reputable shop will be hesitant welding it.
They have their business, reputation and insurance to look out for.

OK, those of you who want to jump on, have at it
:D
 
   / Anyone ever had their ROPS top part cut down? #4  
I shortened a ROPS for a friend. I'm no certified welder, but I have no concerns that if the ROPS fails, it won't be where I welded it.
 
   / Anyone ever had their ROPS top part cut down? #5  
I know, and I am sure my welds would be more than structurally sound as well
I guess I did not elaborate well enough though
My point is, the litigious society we live in, anyone welding on the ROPS is taking a huge risk at losing everything they have, even welding for a friend.

Especially if the death or injury was caused by the person who is injured or killed due to crushing.

The lawyers will end up taking everything you have because you were part of modifying a part that was "engineered" to stop that crushing action
 
   / Anyone ever had their ROPS top part cut down? #6  
I know, and I am sure my welds would be more than structurally sound as wellI guess I did not elaborate well enough thoughMy point is, the litigious society we live in, anyone welding on the ROPS is taking a huge risk at losing everything they have, even welding for a friend.Especially if the death or injury was caused by the person who is injured or killed due to crushing.The lawyers will end up taking everything you have because you were part of modifying a part that was "engineered" to stop that crushing action
My comments weren't directed at you, we posted at the same time, I just now saw yours.I don't live in a litigious society. I realize most of this nation's people do. I'm sorry for that. But maybe they contribute to it??
 
   / Anyone ever had their ROPS top part cut down? #7  
I know, and I am sure my welds would be more than structurally sound as well
I guess I did not elaborate well enough though
My point is, the litigious society we live in, anyone welding on the ROPS is taking a huge risk at losing everything they have, even welding for a friend.

Especially if the death or injury was caused by the person who is injured or killed due to crushing.

The lawyers will end up taking everything you have because you were part of modifying a part that was "engineered" to stop that crushing action

I don't know about that.

Rops is no more critical/important than most other things in a vehicle. If what you are suggesting is true, then a simple tire or wheel change at any garage would be a "huge risk" since a blown tire or wheel coming loose at 75mph on the highway would be too risky.
Nobody would put in aftermarket brake pads, etc..
 
   / Anyone ever had their ROPS top part cut down? #8  
I don't know about that.Rops is no more critical/important than most other things in a vehicle. If what you are suggesting is true, then a simple tire or wheel change at any garage would be a "huge risk" since a blown tire or wheel coming loose at 75mph on the highway would be too risky.Nobody would put in aftermarket brake pads, etc..
Yeah, I agree. It's the participants that make it a litigious society, not the physical act.
 
   / Anyone ever had their ROPS top part cut down? #9  
JD is plain nuts. Why did they design a foldable ROPS that is too tall to fit underneath normal garage doors?



Ralph

I am sure the manufacturers have a well laid out engineering reason for making the ROPS the height that they are.

It is called GEOMETRY

As far as getting someone to weld it, I think any professional and reputable shop will be hesitant welding it.
They have their business, reputation and insurance to look out for.

OK, those of you who want to jump on, have at it
:D

I'll jump in; lilranch is SPOT ON. There are all manner of parameters that dictate ROPS height. Most decent sized CUT ROP structures are jut a tad higher than the standard 7' garage door. Good luck finding a professional welder to modify yours. Be thankful yours is folding, and practice pinning it in operating position when you use your tractor.
 
   / Anyone ever had their ROPS top part cut down? #10  
Yeah, I agree. It's the participants that make it a litigious society, not the physical act.

Modifying a certified ROPS structure is a willful act that by definition compromises the certification and design effort put forth by the manufacturer.
Performing an act of stupidity or negligence in the course of an authorized repair is stupid and negligent.
There's a huge difference made all the more significant by the litigious society we all despise.
 

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