Anyone running a hydraulic auger on their FEL
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grsthegreat
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I personally dont see how it would work. Those are designed to operate with the increased flow and pressures associated with skid steer units.
i was at one time thinking of getting one to use with my rear hydraulic booster kit that i use for my FEL snowblower, but the cost was too much. I simply added a hydraulic assist to my 3 point post hole digger. Did the job.
i was at one time thinking of getting one to use with my rear hydraulic booster kit that i use for my FEL snowblower, but the cost was too much. I simply added a hydraulic assist to my 3 point post hole digger. Did the job.
ptsg
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There are some hydraulic augers made for tractors that requires way less flow to work properly. With one of those units, I can only see it working great, specially because down pressure can be applied versus the 3 pt ones and can also be reversed.
I built one for my homemade backhoe, that uses the auxiliary circuit with 4 GPM and works great.
I built one for my homemade backhoe, that uses the auxiliary circuit with 4 GPM and works great.
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There are units out there that perform very nicely on a diet of 8-10 gpm turning 8-12" augers or perhaps larger. MacMillen is one.
RjCorazza
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I have the Land Pride SA20 In the Messicks video. I just redid my 20 year old split rail fence in June, and the hydraulic auger was a game changer.
Our soil is clay, but had chunks of concrete almost everywhere from a large demo job years ago. The chunks stopped the 3 point auger cold, and required me to bust them up with a digging bar and manually remove from the hole. The down pressure from the fel brought up the chunks in all but one hole, and that one just took a few seconds to pick out.
The rpm's of the hydraulic auger were much slower than a 3 point auger. It was a non issue with drilling the hole, but required a different technique for clearing out the loose dirt. I drilled to depth until no more dirt was coming up and out, stopped the auger, and raised it out of the hole. On most holes I did this 2-3 times to clear the hole.
Our soil is clay, but had chunks of concrete almost everywhere from a large demo job years ago. The chunks stopped the 3 point auger cold, and required me to bust them up with a digging bar and manually remove from the hole. The down pressure from the fel brought up the chunks in all but one hole, and that one just took a few seconds to pick out.
The rpm's of the hydraulic auger were much slower than a 3 point auger. It was a non issue with drilling the hole, but required a different technique for clearing out the loose dirt. I drilled to depth until no more dirt was coming up and out, stopped the auger, and raised it out of the hole. On most holes I did this 2-3 times to clear the hole.
What did you use for the hydraulic motor?
ptsg
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Just a 200 CC Danfoss hydraulic motor. Straight to the auger, which I don't recommend, but I did it anyway at my own risk. It definitely needs a bearing support to take the axial load of the motor.
It does stall on me every once in a while when I find a big rock or stump/roots but I find it to be good that way, so I don't break stuff.
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I have a fair number of stones in my ground and there is no way a PTO auger would make any progress, I've tried and failed.
With the hydraulic unit mounted to the loader I was able to apply down pressure and chew through the rocks.
I'm lucky that most of my stones are sand stone, so as long as the cutting teeth are in decent condition, it wasn't a huge deal.
Flow wasn't a problem, the auger just turned a little bit slower.
With the hydraulic unit mounted to the loader I was able to apply down pressure and chew through the rocks.
I'm lucky that most of my stones are sand stone, so as long as the cutting teeth are in decent condition, it wasn't a huge deal.
Flow wasn't a problem, the auger just turned a little bit slower.
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We run one. It freed up a skid steer. It works just fine and dandy. It's a pretty big unit. Yes will buy again. We dont even have a pto digger anymore. Run it fwd rev that's handy. We have two tracked skid steers. Never seen the digger on them.
My little micro mini excavator came with one when I bought it. The excavator is only 19hp so cant have that much hydraulic flow but my father loved it for putting in 8in holes for a split rail fence a few weeks ago. Dosnt work well in rocky/root clay like we have but at least you have down pressure and reverse. I'm going to put 12in holes in for a wood shed in a few days. I have the same terrible shale/clay soil.
hawksson
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i just left a pecan farmers place... will probably buy his bush hog 2403 phd...
he has "moved up" to a phd auger that mounts to his front end loader arms... i reached to try to pick up the auger head... HEAVY>.. i only tilted it.
he uses it with an 18 inch or 24 inch auger and gives great report... he has very large john deere tractors... i didn't notice the models... but one of them was mowing with a huge bat wing mower. and all of his JDs are way bigger than my 56 hp kubotas.
he has "moved up" to a phd auger that mounts to his front end loader arms... i reached to try to pick up the auger head... HEAVY>.. i only tilted it.
he uses it with an 18 inch or 24 inch auger and gives great report... he has very large john deere tractors... i didn't notice the models... but one of them was mowing with a huge bat wing mower. and all of his JDs are way bigger than my 56 hp kubotas.
Can you be a little more descriptive of “doesn’t work well”. Must not have been horrible if he loved it and you are planning on using it for even bigger holes. Was it just slow, or did you need to resort to hand work?
I made my own from a barn sale hyd.motor. Made a cage for it that swivels so the auger is always vertical in all planes. Mounted off the sie of the bucket so I can see clearly where it will be starting to drill. Run it off the curl circuit and no problems. Nice feature is that it's reversible. run's nice from the joystick.
Dosnt work well meaning the type of 8in auger( for 4in posts) I have is a double flight and would move off rocks it couldn't pick up. Meaning lots of rock removal by hand and hole adjustment by hand. He said he would have came and got my 12in auger if he knew I had it. Lol. I guess this falls into the category or operator error or get a way bigger auger than you think you need.
We did sink nine 12in telephone poles 4ft into the ground and compact the clay back in this past weekend. This bigger auger seams to work alot better and could fill the auger very well. I have a video but I dont think I can post it.
