Chains Aquiline chains: How are they?

[sevilla]

Hello everybody. I have a Kubota L3830 with R4 tire with no traction in snow or mud.
I've been considering snow chains but there is no clearance between the real wheel and the tire for tire chains. So finally I'm ready to have the tires moved by the dealer but I've not decided which tire chains. I've been considering the duo and the aquiline ( not the ones whit spurs. I'm mainly going to use the chains in woods with mud and snow/ice. Any experience?
thanks.

 

[bstrom]

I've got the aquilines and they work well on ice and mud. They have small links with bars and are configured so that they don't drop between the lugs.

Another member on here lowered the pressure on his R4's recently and found he had a larger contact patch and better traction. I think he lowered it to 10 rears (fluid loaded) 15 fronts. Raise the front pressure if you are picking up heavy materials with a loader.

 

[RalphVa]

The turfs on my JD 4010 are working great.

Ralph

 

[bjmsam]

I've got the aquilines and they work well on ice and mud. They have small links with bars and are configured so that they don't drop between the lugs.

Perfect. Ballpark price? Where can those of us not in New England get them? I see no way to order chains on the Wallingford's site.

 

[sevilla]

I both them yesterday for my L3830 R4 17.Lx24: $730+ shipping included. They need more space than the 1" I have now between tire and fender and I will have kubota swap left with right wheel to increase that. Did nor receive them yet.
I hope they will behave. The main reason to chose them over the regular chains for me was their weight: only 33# each vs. 70 of the others.
I bought them at Tractor Tire Chains and Tractor Chains by the Traction Specialists™ (tel 207.4657276).

 

[bjmsam]

Wallingford's told me this morning that Tire Chains Required carries their full line but mentioned that the size I need has sold out for the season. I sent a note to a local place called Maryland Metals to see if they offer anything comparable.

 

[atgreene]

I went with the Trygg chains, but they are for serious traction. Not sure if they're more than you need. $650.00 for mine. 14.9 x 28

http://www.trygg.no/

 

[skywaterbanjo]

I installed Aquilines yesterday on my Kubota B7800. Been frustrated all winter so far with the 'standard' chains not being effective on ice.

The Aquilines (not Talon) made a world of difference. They were expensive but totally worth it. My only concern is the 't' link used to connect the ends together. I hope they stay on.

 

[Chilly807]

I went with the Trygg chains, but they are for serious traction. Not sure if they're more than you need. $650.00 for mine. 14.9 x 28

Home page | Trygg

Those look to be almost identical to my Norse chains. I see they are made in Norway, same as the Norse.

Chilly

 

[atgreene]

Yes, Norway I believe. I'm sure they make them for everyone.

 

[Chilly807]

I installed Aquilines yesterday on my Kubota B7800. Been frustrated all winter so far with the 'standard' chains not being effective on ice.

The Aquilines (not Talon) made a world of difference. They were expensive but totally worth it. My only concern is the 't' link used to connect the ends together. I hope they stay on.

I lost one of the links Norse supplies with their chains, it sounds like the same kind of coupler. They also send a C-shaped open chain link with a split pin that drives in to close the link. I put that in place of the T-link that went missing. So far that's stayed put.

Chilly

 

[skywaterbanjo]

Thanks for telling me this! I hadn't figured out what to do with the C links. ONce installed, can you move the pin to uninstall the link to take the chains off?

 

[sevilla]

For anybody interested I found this official video in which it is detailed by the manufacturer how to instal the Trygg safety grip chains which look identical to the aquiline (same factory?). YouTube - Installing TRYGG Nøsted SafetyGrip.mpg

 

[Chilly807]

Thanks for telling me this! I hadn't figured out what to do with the C links. ONce installed, can you move the pin to uninstall the link to take the chains off?

Now THAT is a good question Mine are loose enough that I can roll the chain up high enough to get a pin punch in there. I think.

Chilly

 

[atgreene]

Now THAT is a good question Mine are loose enough that I can roll the chain up high enough to get a pin punch in there. I think.

Chilly

On my Trygg's I painted the roll pin in the C links with never-sieze, worked it back and forth before I closed it up so I can get it back apart next time. I always do the same with clevises. After running them in salt during the winter they can be a pita to get apart w/o never-sieze.

 

[jda1961]

i know i'm beating a dead horse here but i never did understand why folks buy a tractor with industial tires on them if they don't give very good traction in mud and general farming unless they are being used in an industrial setting. i have ag tires on my kioti, been in many sloppy, slick muddy situations and never once been hung up, never needed chains. why put expensive tires on a machine that are generally useless and that you'll have to buy chains to go anywhere. i can see chains on a 2 wheel drive but on a 4 wheel drive tractor i can't, sounds like somebody needs some ballast added.

 

[whistlepig]

Chains help. The most extreme us of AG tires I have ever seen is on log skidders. I've never seen a log skidder, summer or winter, without chains on it.

 

[sevilla]

i know i'm beating a dead horse here but i never did understand why folks buy a tractor with industial tires on them if they don't give very good traction in mud and general farming unless they are being used in an industrial setting. i have ag tires on my kioti, been in many sloppy, slick muddy situations and never once been hung up, never needed chains. why put expensive tires on a machine that are generally useless and that you'll have to buy chains to go anywhere. i can see chains on a 2 wheel drive but on a 4 wheel drive tractor i can't, sounds like somebody needs some ballast added.

Because:
1) the dealer makes more money;
2) they add a lot of ballast with the fluid which gives more more to the dealer;
3) they help with the loader that also gives more money to the dealer.

 

[Chilly807]

i know i'm beating a dead horse here but i never did understand why folks buy a tractor with industial tires on them if they don't give very good traction in mud and general farming unless they are being used in an industrial setting. i have ag tires on my kioti, been in many sloppy, slick muddy situations and never once been hung up, never needed chains. why put expensive tires on a machine that are generally useless and that you'll have to buy chains to go anywhere. i can see chains on a 2 wheel drive but on a 4 wheel drive tractor i can't, sounds like somebody needs some ballast added.

When you're on snow covered ice, it doesn't much matter whether the tires are R4's or R1's. Rubber on ice is still rubber on ice.

Having said that, I agree that the R1 is the more practical tire for traditional tractor use. Quite a few of us here don't use tractors in the traditional (farming and logging) style.

I'm one of those who need R1's (AG), so I got R1's when I got the tractor. I was lucky enough to buy new, so I had the choice.

Quite a few people buy used. If my used (new to me) tractor came with R4's in good shape, well, it's going to get those worn out before I dig into my wallet any further for a set of new AG's and rims. Or, until I get tired of getting stuck more than I should


Chilly

 

[atgreene]

i know i'm beating a dead horse here but i never did understand why folks buy a tractor with industial tires on them if they don't give very good traction in mud and general farming unless they are being used in an industrial setting. i have ag tires on my kioti, been in many sloppy, slick muddy situations and never once been hung up, never needed chains. why put expensive tires on a machine that are generally useless and that you'll have to buy chains to go anywhere. i can see chains on a 2 wheel drive but on a 4 wheel drive tractor i can't, sounds like somebody needs some ballast added.

I understand where you're coming from on the R-4's. I have never owned any tractors with them, all of ours have r-1's. I travel a lot of pavement and still like the r-1's, much more versitile. My r-1's on the rear of my 4150 have over 1700 hours on them, 60% worn and will dry rot before I ever where them out. Yet I drive it hundreds of miles on pavement a year.

As for chains, if you go where I have to go you don't do it w/o chains. All our tractors that we run have chains, Kubota 6800, 4150, Ford 9n, 2n, 600, 5000 all have chains. W/o them you aren't going to push snow or get anywhere.