Are all sub compacts essentially equal?

   / Are all sub compacts essentially equal? #122  
It's not bigger than the 1 series...not by any amount that matters.

On the other hand, the 1 series is 7" longer than the BX. So 7" longer is okay, but 8" longer isn't?

You have to draw the line somewhere.....

one question however:

Are you ever wrong?

Or should I say do you ever admit you are wrong?
 
   / Are all sub compacts essentially equal? #123  
Tractors and trucks are different, and you know it.

So now it's tires size that defines the machine, not the actual length, height, and weight? :confused2:

LS, who makes the Boomer 25, tends to put one size larger tires on all their machines...that doesn't make my R4047H a Utility machine.

Further, the "rule" about tire size is nothing more than your opinion.

Yes, the 3pt is included in the length of the Boomer 25.

Honestly, it just sounds like the Kubota guys being defensive about the BX series more than anything else. Big deal, they're on the small side of the SCUT group. Some will be the same, some will be bigger, but that doesn't make a 1,500-1,700lb machine a CUT.

This is getting fun now....is it JUST the tire size or is there more to it that puts the machine in a specific class. How do we figure in those Japanese 1/2 ton trucks....I have had some of those, and they don't quite equal a chevy 15 or ford 150.....but they are still called half ton. Muddy waters indeed.
 
   / Are all sub compacts essentially equal? #124  
You have to draw the line somewhere.....

So let me get this straight. There are some machines that are around 95" long, and they're SCUTs. There's one or two that are 102" long, and they're still SCUTs, for some arbitrary reason. Then there are a couple of machines that are 103". You guys are suggesting the line between SCUT and CUT should be after the 102" machines, and not after the 95" machines? That's just silly.

If you read my comments in this thread, you could answer your other question.
 
   / Are all sub compacts essentially equal? #125  
So let me get this straight. There are some machines that are around 95" long, and they're SCUTs. There's one or two that are 102" long, and they're still SCUTs, for some arbitrary reason. Then there are a couple of machines that are 103". You guys are suggesting the line between SCUT and CUT should be after the 102" machines, and not after the 95" machines? That's just silly.

If you read my comments in this thread, you could answer your other question.

Is that the only thing that defines this type of machine? No. What I am saying is over all....you have to look at the total package not just this spec and that spec. Over all what I am saying is during my lunch break a few weeks ago the 25 and 30 felt bigger then the BX I have at home, and from memory bigger then the 1 series. I can't really comment on the max as it was not on my radar for long.

Overall when my fanny was in the seat it the new Holland machines FELT larger.

Re-read that last bit again....FELT... this is something that the specs will not and will never tell you.....how the machine feels to you. I have been on the BX for over 70 hours now. I have a halfway good idea on how it feels....and I am use to it now. I know when I sat on the new Holland they felt larger, Like you are higher, the wheels looked bigger....It felt more heavy. All how the machine FEELS not the specs.
 
   / Are all sub compacts essentially equal? #126  
Is that the only thing that defines this type of machine? No. What I am saying is over all....you have to look at the total package not just this spec and that spec. Over all what I am saying is during my lunch break a few weeks ago the 25 and 30 felt bigger then the BX I have at home, and from memory bigger then the 1 series. I can't really comment on the max as it was not on my radar for long.

Overall when my fanny was in the seat it the new Holland machines FELT larger.

Re-read that last bit again....FELT... this is something that the specs will not and will never tell you.....how the machine feels to you. I have been on the BX for over 70 hours now. I have a halfway good idea on how it feels....and I am use to it now. I know when I sat on the new Holland they felt larger, Like you are higher, the wheels looked bigger....It felt more heavy. All how the machine FEELS not the specs.

The Boomer 25 is larger than your BX. The Boomer 25 isn't larger (significantly) than the 1 series. The 1 series is also larger than your BX.

The 1 series and the Boomer 25 are essentially the same size.

You're talking about feelings, spread out over time, and that's about as unscientific as it gets. If you lined up the BX, a 1 series, and a Boomer 25 next to one another, then that "feeling" might have some kind of relevance.

As it is, saying "it feels bigger" is a pretty poor way to define what class of machine something should be in....especially when some of the factual data contradicts your feelings/memory.
 
   / Are all sub compacts essentially equal? #127  
I quit....I never had one, but talking to you is like talking to an ex wife. From now on I will just say yes dear.

Whatever you say.
 
   / Are all sub compacts essentially equal? #128  
That is 10 degrees past cool. I imagine he has some stories.

Sadly, Andre has passed on but we have a box of photos. My uncle also did the original Planet of the Apes movies and visiting his house as a kid was a trip.
 
   / Are all sub compacts essentially equal? #129  
So sorry for bringing up sad.

But you are a lucky guy to have known a guy like that.
 
   / Are all sub compacts essentially equal? #130  
I quit....I never had one, but talking to you is like talking to an ex wife. From now on I will just say yes dear.

Whatever you say.

It's obvious you never had one cuz that's almost the last thing you do, agree with her. :D
 

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