riptides
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The aggrieved victimhood and perceived impending doom is inherent to the person. People have a choice. "Scoring" is what one makes of it. Or does one think that does not happen in everyday person to person interactions?
Are people lazy, don’t know how to help or scared of liability.
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Only a damned fool would think 32 Trillion in debt wasn’t “impending doom”.
I have no choice but to be doomed by it, and my kids, grandkids and every generation that comes after I’m takin my dirt nap.
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A social media score? You living under a rock? That’s the predicted score for professional sports game isn’t it? You know, the Lakers and the Bucks under on 230 total points on your bet. 
If I'm not trying to make a living off a monetized youtube account how does this affect me?
paulsharvey
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I think this thread has gone really off from the original complaint, but I guess I'll address the original complaint. If there are trees in the ROW, in front of your house, even dead, why would you cut them? They aren't your trees, they aren't on your property, they are on County/City/State land/ROW, and they probably have a contractor who is supposed to address them. Call it in, but don't go cutting another property owners trees. Storm drains, once again, that's not your property. Heck, mowing, if you want to, by all means, but someone else is being paid to do it. Yes, there is liability to it, but also, I'm sure wherever you are, there are rules against unpermitted work in the ROW. I know you think you are doing them a favor, but in reality, you probably aren't.
In Florida, on a state road, you are responsible for your own driveway (access), but that state is responsible for mowing, cleaning the culvert (side drain), trimming trees for overhead clearance, removing hazardous trees, fixing shoulder drop offs, ect. And, I'll add, there is a contractor being paid to do it. If it's not being done, it's probably cause they don't know about it. There are thousands of miles of roadway/right of way, and it's not always patrolled well. They really don't want homeowners to be out on a highway cutting trees, cleaning inlets, ect. The homeowners are most likely not using traffic control, probably don't really know what they are doing, and Very well might make a situation worse, and are likely a hazard to themselves and the traveling public.
Also, yes, the person cutting the states tree could be responsible for paying for the tree. Drop a tree on a power line? Bushhog a phone cross box you didn't know was in there? Destroy a fiber hand hole that is covered by grass while trying to grade a drain issue? Heck, drop that dead tree on a traveling car? No thanks.
All that said, yes, I have cut weep holes in the built up grass shoulder of my neighborhood county road, to get the ponding off the road. I also mow the ROW infront of my property sometimes, but I don't go to the effort to make their ditch look like a yard.
In Florida, on a state road, you are responsible for your own driveway (access), but that state is responsible for mowing, cleaning the culvert (side drain), trimming trees for overhead clearance, removing hazardous trees, fixing shoulder drop offs, ect. And, I'll add, there is a contractor being paid to do it. If it's not being done, it's probably cause they don't know about it. There are thousands of miles of roadway/right of way, and it's not always patrolled well. They really don't want homeowners to be out on a highway cutting trees, cleaning inlets, ect. The homeowners are most likely not using traffic control, probably don't really know what they are doing, and Very well might make a situation worse, and are likely a hazard to themselves and the traveling public.
Also, yes, the person cutting the states tree could be responsible for paying for the tree. Drop a tree on a power line? Bushhog a phone cross box you didn't know was in there? Destroy a fiber hand hole that is covered by grass while trying to grade a drain issue? Heck, drop that dead tree on a traveling car? No thanks.
All that said, yes, I have cut weep holes in the built up grass shoulder of my neighborhood county road, to get the ponding off the road. I also mow the ROW infront of my property sometimes, but I don't go to the effort to make their ditch look like a yard.
paulsharvey
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I will add, if your not familiar, with anything roadway, and government in general; they pretty much address complaints. If you don't call and tell them, don't expect it to get taken care of. If you wonder why some dirt roads get graded more than others, it drive by citizen complaint. If noone on that road calls to complain, it's not going to get graded. I'm not saying complain non-stop, but if you have legit concerns, call them, they work for you. Also, you have to understand they probably aren't legally allowed to do things on private property. That's not being lazy on their part. They can't fill that pot hole 5 feet on your side of ROW in your drive, and people can and do get fired for that kinda stuff. Tree falls from On your property into road, they will remove the part in the road/clear zone, and maybe in the ROW, but not the part on your side.
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paulsharvey
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On liability, I'll share a story that happened to me about two years ago. I'm on the side of the road, at work, watching a horizontal direction drill (bore) under a rural sectional of a state road. Phone company's contractor project manager and several workers onsite. Lady pulls up, and gets out in scrubs. She says she is a home health tech, and her patient just down the side road fell out of a wheel chair. "He's fine, he's just too heavy for me to lift". Me and project manager agree at first, "give us 5 minutes". Then I second think it, and tell the other guy, I'm on the clock, I really can't expose the company to the liability. He agrees too. Tell wife that evening (she's an ICU RN), she says, if the home health tech can't lift him, she should call 911. You definitely shouldn't help.
Sounds messed up, but that "harmless good deed" that takes 5 minutes, is probably best case, going to escalate into an hour long ordeal, and could easily turn into a law suite. I can hear it now, from a company point of view; you stole time from company, and exposed us to extreme risk, for what reason?
Sounds messed up, but that "harmless good deed" that takes 5 minutes, is probably best case, going to escalate into an hour long ordeal, and could easily turn into a law suite. I can hear it now, from a company point of view; you stole time from company, and exposed us to extreme risk, for what reason?
paulsharvey
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Another incident; working on a road (think it was some sewer relocation, but its been probably 8 years ago, and 2000 projects ago). See a car driving NB (we are on a side road, on the SB side) driving irradically, hits median curb, cuts across 3 lanes of traffic, over curb/sidewalk, into a creek, about 12 ft below road grade. I run over, and have someone call 911. Car is upside down, in the creek, but only a foot or so of water. Car is still running, and in drive. Passenger crawls out smashed passager window. Wife is hanging in seat belt, upside down, but looks un-injured. Try to open door, it's bent and stuck. Grab a manhole hook to smash window (think crowbar like impliment), passenger/husband doesn't speak English, and doesn't understand "put it in park and turn off car"; and doesn't want me to break window... at that point, you just go back to Your job. Probably wouldn't be smart to get her out anyways, I'm not a medical person...
Now, if Car was on fire, or she was drowning, it would have been different.
Now, if Car was on fire, or she was drowning, it would have been different.
