Are replacement tractor parts made out of solid gold?

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CliffordK

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Doing a little work on the old International 606 Diesel.

Trying to get the brakes working. I picked up a brake kit with new bearings, springs, and friction disks. But, one brake won't hold together without replacing the brake actuator stud. A small stepped (shoulder) bolt.

I called the dealer today, and they wanted $96 each. One looks like it was replaced at some point. I would need 3 of them for a total of about $300.

They aren't big. Probably hardened steel. However, they likely are precision machined. So, it is unlikely an off the shelf solution would work. I was surprised I was able to get the old bolt out cleanly (filing the flats to 10mm).
 

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   / Are replacement tractor parts made out of solid gold? #2  
That's a tough one for sure. I guess the good thing is they still exist!
 
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My guess is that someone has the same 50+ or 60+ year old screw machine that IH was using to make the parts when the tractors were new. And then just runs small batches of 100 to 1000 bolts as needed. And they've never bothered to write modern CNC programs for many of the old parts.

I still won't pay $100 per screw.

Eventually I will be able to cut similar screws on a lathe.

I've found a lot of vintage baler parts seem to be coming from China. So somehow they are able to reverse engineer the baler parts, and make them and still make a profit.
 
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I would hunt around for a while to find something else to fill the Bill (That's me). Something to substitute, make, or adapt from other vehicles, machinery, and or raw stock. It's not dealing with high speed forces or moments, so weld on a piece of rod onto a hardware store bolt cut to length. Heck even a thick-wall tube would serve the pinion's purpose, pressed onto a bolt shaft.
 
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Got to know a guy that made a very good living owning a salvage yard… parting out value many times scrap price.

That said some wear parts are very rare because any found are well used and in the same condition.

Any luck with web searches?
 
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Do you know or any of your friends know someone with a lathe? Check with your antique car groups in your area or ask around for a retired machinist. Someone could make you a couple.
 
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Do you have any tractor salvage yards in your area? Possible they might have some in better shape especially if used across multiple models like 706, 806, etc.
 
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That is out and out robbery.
Maybe a 5/8" bolt or whatever diameter it is, with a piece of 1/2" pipe welded to the end. You could probably even get a machine show to turn out a few for $100.
 
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That is out and out robbery.
Maybe a 5/8" bolt or whatever diameter it is, with a piece of 1/2" pipe welded to the end. You could probably even get a machine show to turn out a few for $100.
When I worked at a Tool and Die a customer came in asking to replicate a part for his forklift.

The owner quoted something like $400 for 1 piece and $600 for 50 pieces…

The customer ordered 50 pieces at $12 each.

He sold the extras at $20 each to other Clark Forklift owners.

The per part price always drops with production because the setup costs/tooling is spread over many instead of just one…
 

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