At what point does a tractor become a tractor?

   / At what point does a tractor become a tractor? #61  
Okay, not to start another war, but when is a truck a truck? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Does it have to have an oval, bowtie, or animal on the front? Does it need 4 wheel drive?
 
   / At what point does a tractor become a tractor? #62  
Soundguy,
I like your thoughts on this, ASAE rops/fops, to be fair we should not include anything prior to Ralph Nader or OSHA.
 
   / At what point does a tractor become a tractor? #63  
I used to have a Ford Falcon Ranchero. I thought it was a truck and it would remind me all the time that it wasn't. You put 4 of your buddies in the back and a couple of cases of beer and the bumper would drag the ground.
 
   / At what point does a tractor become a tractor? #64  
My dad's first tractor was a Model A ford with two transmissions and the body pulled off. Seems like everybody had a "homemade tractor " back then. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
   / At what point does a tractor become a tractor? #65  
i agree jim, well put, by the way, i am planning on getting a L3400, with fel, when you were buying yours, which deere or new holland did you look at that would be comparable in terms of hp with yours...any specific pro's and con;s that you have liked with yours? thanks in advance for any info...also i was quoted 16k for a new 2005 hst fel, 3400, is that a good price??????
 
   / At what point does a tractor become a tractor? #66  
After all these posts and I just now stumbled across this thread! As a general rule of thumb, I've always considered something to be a "tractor" when all of its wheels are held on with lug studs or lug bolts. Is that a reasonable statement?
 
   / At what point does a tractor become a tractor? #67  
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

A modern farm tractor.A tractor (from Latin trahere) is a device intended for drawing, towing or pulling something which cannot propel itself and, often, powering it too. Most commonly the word is used to describe a vehicle intended for such a task on some other vehicle or object.

Someone else also brought this definition, at least partially, to the forum.

Now if we get into word association then the word tractor will remind most people of a farm. Traditionally that is what a tractor was. A machine that farmers used.

If we look at all the modern tractors and what is called a tractor, we have lawn tractors, garden tractors, compact tractors, etc, etc.
A lawn tractor mows the lawn, and can pull other machinery used for lawn care.
A garden tractor does work in the garden, pulling garden implements such as tillers, plows, disk.

Someone mentioned that some of the old time farm tractors had less horsepower than a lot of riding lawn mowers. But if we look at the definition of tractor, we can imagine that a 25 hp lawn mower will not pull 2 X 12 plow 6" deep. So tractor can also be a brute force thing.

I just ran into a post on another site that pictured a 160 hp traction engine. It was a steam powered tractor made in 1911 by Avery. I just bet that would outpull a lot of modern tractors. Speaking of steam no one mentioned trains. They also pull non powered machines.

The jeep, model T, etc. may fit the definition, and do tractor work, but already have better known names. Like Trains are locomotives.

My 2 cents.
 
   / At what point does a tractor become a tractor? #68  
Is a bull dozer a tractor? Is a tracked vehicle a tractor? Doesn't it depend mostly on usage?

(lawn) tractor, (farm) tractor, tractor (trailor), (airplane mover) tractor...

Number of wheels pretty much doesn't help. Track or tread not much use. HP or size isn't definative..

A self propelled vehicle capable of moving other attachments or implements which perform/accomplish a task while being moved.

So a lawn tractor pulling a trailor with tools or manure in it would qualify /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif As would a tractor moving an airplane out of its gate, or a tractor pulling a trailor full of goods or equipment.

But an ATV or lawn mower with no capability of pulling/moving things would not. A lawn mower with a snow plow or a trailor would.

John /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
   / At what point does a tractor become a tractor? #69  
By that definition, my ATV which has a hitch and is used to haul a trailer is a tractor, as is my ZTR which has a place for a hitch qualifies as a tractor.

I do think the ZTR is a lawn tractor. It can do more than just mow, but all it's tasks have to do with caring for the lawn.

My ATV even though it tows is not a tractor. IMHO.

Moon of Ohio
 
   / At what point does a tractor become a tractor? #70  
Moon,

"My ATV even though it tows is not a tractor. IMHO."

Maybe we could call it a mini-tractor-trailor /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

John
 

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